For those who fallow our father, bring in the modly cheese

From Dakka Dakka by Jabbdo

Source: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/463220.page

cheesy and fun, no?

That is awesome

I don't believe it would work. Allies are treated as enemies that you can't target (emphasis mine).

Well, it's not a targeted attack. You just fire it and it hits every enemy model within range. You could argue that you cannot shoot the aura if you had no legit enemies within range. But as the attack doesn't target any enemy unit, you aren't constrained by the targeting rules.

As utterly hilarious as this is, I think it's pretty loopholey and cheesy (and not in a good way).

I dont recall aura of decay ever targeting anything 0.o

The part that gets me is it brings FnP to a 3+ from a 5+. Stronger then the old edition where it would bring it from a 4+ to a 5+.

I was wondering b/c daemons have EW and are immune to ID do we always get the 5+ FnP or is it worded to prevent that.

I would assume (not being able to see the rulebook again until tomorrow) that the rules still explicitly say "eternal warrior does not prevent the loss of feel no pain" like it did last edition. if it doesnt, we may have exclusive rights to feel no pain no matter the situation

I would assume (not being able to see the rulebook again until tomorrow) that the rules still explicitly say "eternal warrior does not prevent the loss of feel no pain" like it did last edition. if it doesnt, we may have exclusive rights to feel no pain no matter the situation

FNP says it cannot be used against wounds that cause instant death. The thing that gets me is that Eternal Warrior makes you immune to the effects of instant death. So if you are immune to it, shouldn't FNP still work?

I'm thinking it should, but RAW it doesn't. Eternal Warrior doesn't change the fact the wound causes instant death, and thus it prevents FNP It just makes you immune to the effect of instant death.

I dont recall aura of decay ever targeting anything 0.o

It really needs to be faq'd. The aura description calls it a 'ranged weapon' and also mentions that models locked in combat can be 'targeted' by the power. So those lead me to believe that the power functions like a shooting attack and does target units. However, the FAQ says the power doesn't restrict targets of other shooting attacks or assaults. So that makes me think it's a special attack that is not restricted by targeting.

So I'm on the fence. I'm thinking people would be opposed to the cheese combo and would veto it, so I would double check with any tourney judges to get a ruling on it before rolling this combo in a tourney

I would assume (not being able to see the rulebook again until tomorrow) that the rules still explicitly say "eternal warrior does not prevent the loss of feel no pain" like it did last edition. if it doesnt, we may have exclusive rights to feel no pain no matter the situation

FNP says it cannot be used against wounds that cause instant death. The thing that gets me is that Eternal Warrior makes you immune to the effects of instant death. So if you are immune to it, shouldn't FNP still work?

I'm thinking it should, but RAW it doesn't. Eternal Warrior doesn't change the fact the wound causes instant death, and thus it prevents FNP It just makes you immune to the effect of instant death.

Last edition (I dont have access to the rulebook again until tomorrow) it said in the rules for feel no pain (or eternal warrior, it was one of them) that having eternal warrior didnt stop the effects of losing Feel no pain from ID, aand I would assume it is written out in the rules once again. if it isnt, however, as I said, Daemons will have an exclusive right to feel no pain no matter what.

Love it!!! (must get Grots now lol)

So I was talking with a friend of mine and we were discussing the wording of Instant Death, Eternal Warrior and FnP in 6th and we came to the conclusion that it works in the same fashion as the previous edition. So the answer to the question of whether or not Eternal Warrior allows a daemon with FnP to use FnP on a unsaved ID wound is no it does not.

I'm anxious to get the new box set for the mini-rulebook. Hopefully they clarify some stuff in that book that can rule if this works or not.

I did reread allies and I believe that the rulebook says non-best buddy allies are considered enemies that you cannot shoot. As aura is considered a shooting attack, this would mean it wouldn't work against grots. Some rules lawyers would argue that if you cannot shoot them, then you cannot use aura of decay at all if they are within range as it would hit them, but I think it fails to target them.

Still no FAQ tho, so who knows if it works officially or not

Hah, funny idea, but no. I'm gonna go with illegal and gamey, however entertaining the thought of packing fresh cannon fodder before every invasion would be...