2250 Tourny coming up in july

[Thatguy1]

Whats up everybody I am new to posting but I have been reading a lot of posts that are going up on here. There is a 2250 tourny coming up in July and I am having trouble making a list. I know there is going to be no restrictions and a lot of good players. The other thing is I am expecting a lot of cheese from everybody. I have access to a lot of daemon stuff and I will post a list after this. I would like to play with my daemons instead of the lizards but if I cant figure the daemons out than I might go with lizs.

I have:
Lords
Bloodthirster
Great unclean one
Kairos the fateweaver (which can turn into a lord of change)
Keeper of secrets

Heroes
Herald of khorne
2 Herald of tzeentch on disc
1 herald of tzeentch with wings
2 herald of nurgle that can ride on palaquins

Core
48 bloodletters
10 horrors
30 Plaguebearers
10 furies

Special
5 dogs (can pick up another 5)
4 nurglings(can make another 8)

Rare
10 bloodcrushers
12 flamers
3 fiends

I Know for sure armies: warriors of chaos, skaven, orc and goblins, tomb kings, lizardmen, and probably high elves.
Here are my 3 options either running a MSU type army, a points denial list or trying to figure out a list with a Greater daemon. Thanks for the help!!

[Lytera94]

I would recommend picking one of those three list types and attempting to write a list yourself with the units you want to run. Help will be far more forthcoming and more useful if you put in a little effort.

[Thatguy1]

First list I was thinking of. The reason is for the mobility and having a lot of stuff for somebody to focus on.

This is the MSU type list. I still have some extra points left over.
Heroes
Herald of Tzeentch
MoS
140
Herald of Nurgle
115
Herald of Khorne
Armour of khorne
115

Herald of Khorne
Armour of Khorne
115
Core
17 bloodletters
Musician
198

17 bloodletters
Musician
198

20 Plaguebearers
Banner
Musician
Icon of internal
283

5 Furies 60
5 furies 60
Special
6 dogs 210
6 dogs 210
Rare
6 flamers 210
6 flamers 210
Fiends 55
Fiends 55



The points denial list
Lord
Great unclean one
Nurgling infestation
Trapping of Nurgle
550

Heroes
Herald of khorne 100

Herald of Nurgle 115

Special
8 Nurgling

Core
40 Bloodletters
FC
Endless war
535

29 Plaguebearers
FC
Internal v
348

5 furies 60
5 furies 60

I am still trying to figure out a list with the Greater Daemon that may need some time to brew.

[Lytera94]

Excellent! Alright, a few comments. I can't really speak to MSU, but there are several people on this forum who run it, and I'm sure they'll comment. For the points denial list:

1. I would recommend Noxious Vapors and Stream of Bile instead of Nurgling Infestation. The former makes him far more survivable and the latter will help a ton if he gets stuck in combat (which is likely considering his lack of speed).

2. Your HoK should have Armour of Khorne. It's extremely cheap and will help him not get slaughtered in his first combat.

3. I'm not a fan of Plaguebearers. They're tough, sure, but you already have a GUO and a 'letter-horde, which is excellent points denial, and in my experience they're just not killy enough to justify the points. However, they're by no means an unworkable choice, but Standard of Seeping Decay is essentially mandatory. I'd also put Stream of Bile on your HoN. it's a fantastic gift particularly for its cost.

[bonesaww666]

Personally if your looking at Greaters I think the Bloodthirster is one of the better choices at 2250, you can use him for small/support unit removal early on and board control (his movement is awesome) as everyone and their brother hates taking him to the lips. He is great for tagging a unit and kicking their teeth in so your Bloodletters can get that all important charge off against your horde of choice.

[Thatguy1]

So I just tested a list out on Friday against my Friends ogers
His list
BSB charater
a level 4
a level 2 who know beast
2 sabertuskts
2 stonehorns
6 maneaters with scout and I belive swift stride
and a Hord block of bulls with full command lots and lots of bulls

My list
Bloodthirster
armour of khorne
Immortal fury
Herald of tzeentch
disc
MoS
lore of life
Herald of tzeentch
disc
MoS
lore of Death
Herald of Nurgle
Stream of bile
20 bloodletters
full command
20 bloodletters
full command
25 plaguebearers
ful command
icon of Eternal Virulence
5 furies
1 fiend
4 flamers
4 flamers
So it started of with me killing his stone horn with a bloodletter pack and than charging both my bloodthirster and letters into the hord, the bearers failed the charge which was bad for me but I still won combat. infact I only lost 1 combat that entire game.

I Lost only because of how amazing his dice rolls were. I should have beaten him so badly but no. This is how amazing his rolls were he need a 6 up armer save just about got it every time but when he didnt he got his 6 up perry save. He always rolled a 5 or a 6 on one dice for winds and he just about always rolled a 10 for charging. Also he needed a 6 to wound and rolled 4 of them like it was the new thing that everybody was doing.

The best part is I took about 13 of his own dice and rolled each one sepretly I only failed 3 saves looking for 6s.

[bonesaww666]

You don't happen to play around the Niagara Region do you? I lost to an OK player who seemed to possess the exact same quality dice... Eg. He had 12 attacks needed to hit my BT on 6's he managed to score 8 or 9 and then proceeded to score 6 wounds with his damn iron guts...

[Thatguy1]

Im in Georgia. The best part is he thinks he is the best player and that everybody challenges him just to take him off of his throne. When in reality he is the one who challenges everybody and it doesnt help that he plays 2 of the top tier armies WoC and Ogers but he plays them so badly and its so easy to figure out what he is going to play before he even makes a list.
It is alright I pissed him off in the long run he rolled double 6s to wound something and he said Amazingly. So the rest of the night whenever he rolled I said Amazingly.

Anyways I will be playing more games and hopefully get better results.

[bonesaww666]

Firestorm blade on your BT is something I vastly enjoy, yes there is always the fear of Flame Ward BS but generally you should be able to use his vastly superior movement to mitigate this issue. Or Spellbreaker which is always fun, gives you that all important dispell that I would recommend taking to any tournament.
I run my BT as a borderline sacrificial tool, I take on WL's and any other elites with him (hammering Iron guts is never out of the question!) by taking Lore of Light you can force most units to hit him on 6's which is amazing!
I would drop the LoD-HoT in exchange for more troops or whip out a HoK for one of your units... As a matter of fact I would recommend trying to get one of your units of BL's to 30 for horde goodness, then run the HoK in whichever suits you better at the time of deployment. He will make 20 badass and 30 will become overkill, so if your enemy deploys in such a way that proves unfavorable to you just place him where required (50% of games are won and lost in the deployment phase)