Known existing questions in need of a FAQ?, suggestions?

Post edited 1/11/2013

I'm trying to make a list of older army book / BRB questions that require a FAQ.

I've got on my list so far
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An excellent list on warseer http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.p...AQ-Wishlist-4-0

BRB questions

Characters
How do we handle putting multiple characters with incompatible base sizes in a unit.  Can you place two character with incompatible base sizes on the same end of the front rank?

Can multiple characters declare seperate charges out of a unit during the same turn?

Can hits from  a breath weapon or thunderstomp from a model _not_ fighting in a challenge be allocated to a  an opposing model   _in_ a challenge
(e.g. 9 hits from a breath weapon attack against a unit of 8 troops + Character)?

War Machines
Can a template attack be placed in a way that would potentially cause the template to hit friendly troops or troops in combat?

How do we resolve cannonball and bolt thrower shots against monstrous infantry and beast units that have already taken wounds for example:

3x3 Ogre unit that's previously taken 2 wounds. Cannon is shot at the unit bouncing through the whole unit (3 models).  If the cannonball inflicts two wounds to the first ogre what happens?

A) Does not do 3 wounds to kill an ogre so stops, applies 2 wounds to unit, killing one model and applying 1 wound to another ogre?
Does it do enough to kill an ogre, so an ogre model is removed, but no carry over of wounds, continue cannnonball?
C) Does it do enough to kill an ogre, so an ogre model is removed, 1 wound is carried over to next ogre, continue cannonball?


Magic
If a unit moves onto a vortex template and then stops what happens to the vortex?  Is it moved so it is 1 inch away from the unit if so in what direction?

If a flying unit moves over but does not end their move in a vortex  are they effected?

How do we apply sequential modifications that might take an an attribute beyond limits allowed by the rules.
For example a strength three unit is subject to enfeebling foe for -3 strength and is subjected to Wyssans Wildform (or carrying great weapons) What would be their final strength value. 

Does open ground count as terrain for the purposes of curse of Anraheir

How far can a unit with movement 6 move when effected by Birona's Time Warp.

Magic Items

What is the weapon skill of a  model with Fencer's blades who fails a Fear test.

Does a mounted non Brettonian character is armed with a magical spear or lance use the magic weapon in second and subsequent rounds of combat?
Commentary - the rules for spears/lances and magic weapons are in contradiction.

Army Book Specific Questions

Beastmen
Does the Hagtree Fetish give rerolls to  cause wounds with Lore of Death spells.

Can a Doombull (or any model) make more than 10 attacks in a phase due to special rules (additional attacks, frenzy, blood greed, magic items etc)

How do we resolve Traitor Kin against models like the Stonehorn where the rider does not have a full stat line to resolve attacks against?

Can Mantle of Ghorok be cast into combat?

Daemons of Chaos
Are Daemonic Icons restricted to 0-1 per army or does the 'Magic Standard'-FAQ entry simply mean that they are effected by spells/items that would effect Magic Standards?

Does the torment blade/staff of change count as an additional hand weapon?

Are Palanquin mounted characters infantry or cavalry?

If a battle standard bearer is in range must a daemon player reroll all failed instability tests

Brettonians
What is the weapon skill of a  model with Armor of Agiluf who fails a Fear test

Do  spells from army books released prior to 8th edition follow the four basic casting restrictions?

Skaven
Which characters may use clan eshin only items? 
Commentary: Theoretically there could be chieftains and warlords from clan eshin.

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Changes 5/25
Removed one of the challenge breath weapon questions
Removed the two herdstone movement/damage questions
Added characters charging out of a unit
Added crumbling/instability and over run

Changes 1/11/13
Removed questions previously answered by FAQ responses.
Editted text of some questions for clarity.
Added questions in thread up until this date.

Note please do not debate questions in this thread, and try to be savvy about the difference between "I don't know the rules very well" or "I've sometimes wondered about this" and "this is a well recognized area of frequent contoversy in need of a FAQ answer"

With thanks.

Gary

1) does the torment blade/staff of change count as an additional hand weapon?

2) does open ground count as terrain for the purposes of curse of anraheir?

3) do older army book spells follow the four basic casting restrictions?

- Do Daemonic Icons follow the 0-1 restriction or does the 'Magic Standard'-FAQ entry simply mean that they are effected by spells/items that would effect Magic Standards?

Say what you want about Warseer, but you're gonna want to check THIS thread out, I think it's a pretty good summary of the outstanding issues currently being discussed in communities.

Oh.. And how exactly does Birona's Timewarp effect the movement allowance of units with 6+ Movement. Is it capped at 10 or not? Do you double the Marching-distance or the basic Movement value?

Cheers!

Nice thread!

Good idea for a thread - I really want to know the answer to the scouts and curse of anraheir questions as these come up quite often in my games.

One question we were debating in this thread about a month ago was thunderstomps and breath weapons in a challenge. Its asked in that link DaemonReign posted, but I don't think their question is specific enough. I'd probably word it as follows:

Q: Can stomp and breath weapon attacks made by his opponent target a Character in a unit if he is fighting in a challenge another model involved in the combat? Normally hits from these attacks are distributed as for shooting, so can't pick out Characters in a unit. Similarly, can a model with a breath weapon or thunderstomp involved in the same combat but not fighting in the challenge cause a Character in a challenge to be hit by these attacks if the unit it's attacking is small enough and enough hits are generated (e.g. 9 hits from a breath weapon attack against a unit of 8 troops + Character)?

Hope that makes sense.

Needs some word smithing

Its a little convoluted yes, I think I was trying to ask too much with one question. Maybe splitting it into 2 questions would help, like so:

Q: If a model with a breath weapon or stomp attacks is fighting a challenge against a Character in a unit, can these attacks single out the Character? (Normally hits from these attacks are distributed as for shooting, so can't pick out Characters in a unit.)

Q: Can a model with a breath weapon or thunderstomp fighting against a unit that includes a Character fighting in a challenge (but not fighting in the challenge itself) cause the Character to be hit by these attacks if enough hits are generated and the unit is small enough (e.g. 9 hits from a breath weapon attack against a unit of 8 troops + Character)?

Any better?

Q: How do we distribute breath weapon or stomp attacks from a model fighting a challenge, can/must these attacks target the opposing character in the challenge?
Commentary Normally hits from these attacks are distributed as for shooting, it is unclear how to distribute them in a challenge.

Q: Can hits from a breath weapon or thunderstomp from a model not fighting in a challenge be allocated to a an opposing model in a challenge
(e.g. 9 hits from a breath weapon attack against a unit of 8 troops + Character)?

First post list edited.
I'll try and take a loook through the warseer thread. Working from an IPAD which makes some of this kind of forum work a bit tough.

I'm not sure why you list the Staff of Change and the Torment Blade in the same question to be honest.

The entry for Torment Blade has that peculiar wording of 'Hand Weapon.' - written at the start of the mechanical description of the Gift.

Staff of Change doesn't have that wording, as far as I can remember, in fact what's so funny is that the Torment Blade is the ONLY item in our entire book that has any kind of 'equipment-sounding' description like this.

Or am I mistaken? Anyway, I always thought the Torment Blade was a 'misprint' or lapse really.. just something that snuck in there because the Designer was a bit tired when he wrote that segment..

you are mistaken Dreign, staff of change has the hand weapon rule as well

Ok.. Forget I said anything then..

here's another one that i've come across on TWF-

Q. can multiple characters declare charges out of a unit?

link to the discussion

http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.ph...233288#p1233288

This is already covered since the first FAQ:

Will pull it out next time I collate. Appreciate pointing that out. I rushed the collation earlier this week.