How Are You Dealing With The Grey Knights?

So how is everyone coping playing against the GK book?

I had no issues with them until our local GK player started spamming 3 LR's and Warpquake (if you land in the 12" bubble you auto mishap..).

I've found with Daemons that you need to build on the opponents weaknesses, of which GK's have very few.. I managed to beat a duo LR list at 1k by splitting his force up and getting some very lucky rolls..

It depends on the list. Honestly id rather have land raiders they psycannon spam. 35 str 7 rending shots backed up by death cults. and enough rhinos that they can quake mos of the board.

Yeah our GK player sucks.. We did have a good one but he realised that the codex is ridiculous and sold them off.

Well, since we deploy all units by deepstrike and none are on the board at the beginning, my strategy is as follows:

1. Let your opponent deploy his whole army
2. Flip the table and crush his models
3. Run
4. Profit

My last 2 40 games were against Gray Knights and those were pretty much most horribly unbalanced games that I had ever played on my gaming history of 15 years. The amount of shooting was astounding and considering that only half of our army deployes at the beginning I really had no clue how to survive even the first 2 turns. And way too much mech to handle for basic daemon army. Daemon princes of Tzeentch worked to some degree as they could bust the tank with shooting and charge the units inside...but thats pretty much it.

I've only played them twice with Daemons so far and its one win, one loss so far (against different opponents). Win was 1500pts against a balanced list, loss was 3k against a Crowe/Purifier/Dreadknight list, with extra Terminators and Stormravens. I think I did better in the smaller game becuase they couldn't muster enough of the nasteier troops.

In theory Crushers should be good against them, but not had much luck so far. Bloodthirsters are good though and can kill Dreadknights even with their gifts nullified. Flesh Hounds are OK for tying up most units for a while if you can get them there, although they won't kill much. Getting your troops to survive a round of shooting and still have enough numbers to effectively hit back is a real problem though. Only Plaguebearers seem to stand a chance of surviving the shooting, but they are hopelessly outclassed in combat thanks to power weapons and hammerhand on nearly every unit.

You canīt talk of beating GK unless you are playing some noob! The only chance is a Khorne list but even then itīs just not fun. and fun is the reason I play. I played GK last night and it sucked the fun out of the game completly. If GK play it right every game should be wipeout unless you field all Khorne witch sucks on pretty much everything else. I hate GW for fielding an antiarmie vs one of the weaker and lesser armie in the game. Talkabout kicking someone whos allready down. For my sanity when I draw GK in tournes a walk away and take a beer in the bar instead. Why even play?! It more fun not to, thx GW for making the game better.

It comes down to needing two things. 1 some thing that can stand up to the shooting; that we have in crushers. the second thing is something that has an ass ult range greater then 12 in because we can not deep strike closer. The problem is they the things that can do that are either to expensive to put enough down so they don't get shoot off or too flimsy to live through shooting.

If we could have both waves come in at the same time we might have a hope. As is a well made is with a ok player playing it there is not much chance.