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People keep asking about new Bloodletters?
, Here the scoop people!
Member No.: 999
Joined: 15-September 07
Yeah ...this is NOT really great news - well...the price drop is nice...but with only 1-Attack...they lose out to stuff like the new Grave Guard, etc. in the Vampire book. Why are the "supposedly toughest of the Lesser Daemons" when it comes to combat not really all that well-represented in that department ?
There must be more than just "Killing Blow" and Move-5...AND a Leadership DROP (-2 points from SOC, -1 point from HOC) ! ?
Essentially...what GoC is saying is they will be:
WS-5, BS-0, STR-5, TOUGH-3, INIT-4, ATTACKS-1, LDRSHP-7, MOVE-5
They will get (assuming he means the EXACT same as before except for the three things he mentioned):
Light Armor (6+ Save / or they might call it Scaly Skin as the new models have some scaly parts like lizards on their shoulders, arms, etc), 5+ Ward Save.
Special Abilities: Killing Blow
Would this seem reasonable for 12-points ? The current ones WERE over-costed at 16...but they DID have those 2-STR-5 attacks, at least as long as they were Frenzied. Not being baited is a huge plus...but the "no Toughness 4" and "only 1-attack", PLUS a Leadership Drop... and the only REAL thing they get as a "bonus" is Move-5 (not THAT big of a deal), and Killing Blow ?
Doesn't seem that impressive . . . .
Also...GoC said the new Horrors were 12-pts.... why would the Bloodletters of Khorne be the exact same cost as those weedy little things ?
(are we to assume that 12-pts is the "magic number" for all Lesser Daemons now?)
Fulgrim thinks of nothing but utterly ruining his opponent's life.
But then again, that's what Daemons do best.
Baal, Lord of Destruction
Member No.: 831
Joined: 29-April 07
Movement 5 is HUGE for them. They move faster than the rest of the lesser demons, except for slaanesh, so they can guard your other units better. My Khorne DL worked in waves: Wave 1: BT and exalted, wave 2: crushers, wave 3: letters and chariot(s). Now they do that better without being frenzied. Wave 1: Greater demon and screamers, Wave 2: crushers, wave 3: letters/nettes, wave 4: the other lesser demons.
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Member No.: 737
Joined: 26-February 07
well lets compare them to high elf sword masters
sword masters are 15 points disrember real cost but i know there not less than that
2 attacks asf
same str same t
+5 armour save
bloodletters 12 points
same str same t
FEAR your forgeting this one
Stuborn with crumble(also new vampires according to wd get to use ward save vs. this lets hope daemons do too)
+5 ward save
Im sure they will be able to have a nice juicy banner
so for 240 points you get 20 lets say command is same as cost of model
put just a banner in them for a total of 252 you get +4 comabt res and 5 rerollable ws 5 str 5 killing blow attacks with FEAR!!!!!!
3 x 6 formation = 216 points with standard (228)
+3 combat res decent amount of outnumber for fear
6 ws 5 rellrolable str 5 killing blow with fear
+5 ward so stuborn with crumble
sounds like a deal to me.....
Would put this up against any infantry in the game for its points cost... Thing is yes you may lose combat the first round but you stick....
seems like they are well balanced if you put them against some races undercosted if you put them against lets say dark elf,empire,black orcs,chaos warriors,etc.I think there fine and cheap for what they do
can anyone say msu bloodletters or big blocks for cr now
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