Tzeentch Daemons Log

[Shadespyre]

Here's a link to my painting / modelling diary for my Daemons of Tzeentch army.

Tzeentch Daemons Army Diary

I'm actually most of the way to completing a 3000 point all Tzeentch army, I'd love to hear any comments or advice, especially suggestions for a paint scheme for my Lord of Change.

[Talonz]

Nice to see the lox jarg model get some use! Sounds like hes a little big for a herald but a little small for a daemon prince?

[Shadespyre]

Sadly way too small for a DP, he'd look a bit lost on even a 40x40mm base. He actually comes supplied with a 25mm slotta base, which he will happily stand up on, he just overhangs it in several directions. I guess if you are using him as a Herald with wings, then you won't be ranking him up that often, so no problem.

I've started putting paint on him, so there will be some pictures of him soon.

[Shadespyre]

In case you think I've gone off Daemons, my army diary is still being updated on the Herdstone (purple link below, please take a look and comment!). Having it in two places seems like hard work... You can see how my Lox Jarg came out (almost a disaster) and my other Herald-Sorceror conversions.

Having fought my first all-Tzeentch battle (with some advice from DaemonReign, thanks!) I can see that lack of killing power is going to be a problem. I want to stay Tzeentchy for now, but that means adding a Daemon Prince really. Lots of points to find for a 2000 point army list, and oh so vulnerable to missiles.

So I was looking at options, and I thought of putting Skulltaker in one of my Horror blocks. Adds some hittiness, even if he's maximised for killing characters not RnF.

So, first question is:

Has anyone tried this and find it works / sucks?

My second is:

To maintain my Tzeentchy feel, what model / fluff would you suggest to represent Skulltaker?

My bird-headed heralds suggest a theme to follow perhaps? I've considered the old Aekold Hellbrass model (plainly Tzeentchy, has a big sword and armour, and I've got one). But I'm also thinking of reinventing "Skulltaker" as "Mindstealer". At which point I immediately think of AD&D Mind Flayers.

Any more ideas out there?

[Ruhl]

The mindstealer idea sounds cool. What about using the genstealers tendril head for the mindflayer look?

[Noisy Assassin]

Mmmm, delicious brains of enemy characters...

[Shadespyre]

Quite like these models, but not really "martial" enough perhaps?

Reaper Bathalian

Reaper Bathalian

[Noisy Assassin]

If you're going for a Tzeentch theme I don't think you really have to focus on the 'martial' bit. Especially if you want a fluff aspect of "I eat your brain, now you're dead"

Some players may complain, buit they'd probably complain about you not using the Skulltaker model in the first place.

(And I really like the second one. Very Tzeentchy feel to me)

[Shadespyre]

Yeah, he's gorgeous, probably the best "mind flayer" miniature I've ever seen. But does he look like he has WS9 and a 3+ AS? I dunno. I may buy one anyway and see what else comes to mind! Perhaps a head swap onto another GW Chaos miniature?

[Noisy Assassin]

MIND ARMOR! Hehehe ^.^

[Shadespyre]

Hehe. Nice!!! Actually, my local players won't mind too much what miniature I use, they are mostly less fussy than I am! Until he kicks their ass for them anyway...

I've just about finished my Lord of Change! Check out the pic in my army diary. I've also added 8 more Flamers, based on the recommendations of the Legion.

This means I've pretty much run out of Tzeentch Daemons to paint for now, so I need to give this Mindstealer idea some thought.

[Shadespyre]

Mindstealer project: I've picked up this D&D miniature which I think has potential. He's a similar height to the Darksword Hawkman, though he's obviously floppy vinyl instead of lovely metal. Needs some conversion work - replace the crappy sword, change the iconography a bit - but I do rather like the head.



It occurs to me it would be easy to remove the head and place it on another body - all ideas appreciated!

I've also come up with another "cheating" addition to my Tzeentch force. It's a simple thing so I'll hold off further info until I can present a painted model for you to criticise!

[Ruhl]

I would say definitely plop the head on another body, the body depends on whether you want to stick with the robed look or go for a more martial vibe.

There's also this guy.

[Noisy Assassin]

I'm still a fan of all-out magaicallyness. SO I'd vote for keeping the body, adding a staff of some sort, and maybe expanding the robe with gs to make it look more dynamic. But it definitely has potential either way.

[Shadespyre]

Ruhl, that guy is very disturbing (like a lot of Malifaux stuff) but I definitely want to go for the "classic" mindflayer head. If I'm going to chop this guy up anyway, I think I'll try leaving the head on this body and seeing where it goes. I've got some High Elf arms which i think will sub in nicely. How about right hand runic sword, left hand staff, and perhaps some extra bulk with a big cloak? I might consider a nice shield (to rep the AS) but that may be a little too martial. I guess I'm erring towards Noisy's idea here.

If it all goes horribly wrong I can saw the head off and look for another body!

EDIT: hastily thrown together concept model: