2000pt list, not playing nice anymore

Why would you replace the champ for a musician? I mean, yeah ok for the +1 if combat res is a draw but hardly need the +1 for rallying? or am I missing a trick here?

I don't like champions in daemon units because your paying 12pts for a single attack. It's never been that effective for me when I've used Nurgle daemons. I think champions only need to go into a unit if you have a herald you want to "shield" from a challenge for a turn.

Plus in the event of a draw, the enemy doesn't win the combat because you skimped on the 6pt Bloodletter musician

Now should I stick with this instead or put a GD in and change the lot, going for 2000pts, no restrictions and I want it to be rock hard:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165

6 furies 72
6 furies 72
3x 10 horrors 360

8 Flesh hounds 280
8 Flesh hounds 280
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
6 flamers 210

total 1999

PD: 5, DD: 5

I know the units of 8 FHS are expensive but more protection and maybe outnumber and CR for the 2 heros, not sure about a BSB as it's still unclear if you have to re-roll a failed instability test and then roll more on your next roll....

Unless you guys have a better idea on the hardest 2000pts

or could do something like this and use a trap:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165
Herald of Slaanesh+Siren Song 115

11 furies 132
2x 10 horrors 240
14 Daemonettes+champion+Standard+ecstasy Standard 217

5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
6 flamers 210

total 1989

PD: 4, DD: 4

Now not sure I would have enough magic defence, so could drop the 11 furies down to 7 and put a lvl1 on the HoS.

What do you guys think?

Upon testing, I'm not convinced about the flamers, as you usually hit on 5s and wound on 4s but that's our only shooting....Hum...not sure

Lots of other folks like the other rares - but it is our only shooting. And you are rolling A LOT of dice usually. Your goal with them is taking out warmachines, fast cav and other few wounds lots of potential impact targets.

I agree with aprevious poster I like musicians more than champs as it's not about rallying it's about the +0.5 CR for ties (that works out to about as much or more CR than a champions additional attacks - at a cheaper price)

I think 11 furies is too many two units of 5/6 would be more effective

Too many flamers.

How about something like this:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165

8 furies 96
3x 10 horrors 360

8 Flesh hounds 280
6 Flesh hounds 210
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
3 Beast of Nurgle 300

total 1971

PD: 5, DD: 5

Skulltaker on his own so I can send him into what I need, the other herald with the Flesh hounds.
Now would have enough points for another gift on the herald of khorne but there's a new High Elf player at my club so don't want too many flaming attack or He could get the BSB but as mentioned not sure on the ruling.

Or do you guys think I should stick with the Daemonettes, like this:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165
Herald of Slaanesh+Siren Song 115

5 furies 60
2x 10 horrors 240
14 Daemonettes+Standard+ecstasy Standard 205

5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
3 Beasts of Nurgle 300

total 1995

PD: 4, DD: 4

Either one is pretty good the second is more flexible in different tactical situations with siren song and the daemonettes

Would the magic defence of the second list be a bit of a problem?

maybe this would work better:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165

5 furies 60
5 furies 60
3x 10 horrors 360

8 Flesh hounds 280
6 Flesh hounds 210
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
3 Beast of Nurgle 300

total 1995

PD: 5, DD: 5

After recap I've been thinking:

BT+Armour of Khorne+Immortal Fury 490
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165

5 furies 60
5 furies 60
3x 10 horrors 360

5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Flesh hounds 175

6 flamers 210
3 Beast of Nurgle 300

total 1995

PD: 5, DD: 5

My only concern is static CR, now could drop a Beast and replace 10 horrors with 16 Bloodletters with full command but then I'd loose a Dispel dice and don't know how beast perform in units of 2.
Any advice? I want this to be really aggressive and to be honest for a "all comer" as I don't want to be changing my list every five minutes, would like to get a good one that works ok and stick with it.

Thanks in advance.