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HarleyXJGuy's Army, Khorne focused
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Lil' Nurgling
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So here is my first Demon.   The skin looks better in person, it got kinda washed out in the photo. Although I do intend to add another layer of orange to the rest of the army. I am not sold on the sword at all though. Some ideas for the sword and any CC for that matter would be great. Thanks.
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The Eternal Bloodletter

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*aah* Bloodletters.... Probably the reason I started Daemons in the first place, FYI.  I think you've done a pretty good job on the skin-tone there. There are no absolutes. What I really think you should do, though, is accentuate the eyes/teeth with some appropriate color.. All my Bloodletters have green eyes and shiny white teeth, for example - and again there's no absolutes or right-or-wrongs.. just saying especially with the eyes you should do 'something' rather than 'nothing'. Not sure what you have done with the blade of the sword, looks like metal-paint washed with some brownish color. It's all right, if perhaps a little 'low-key' for a Hellblade. Again, I painted all of mine with a green/yellowish glow.. and the standard GW-way would be to mimic super-heated metal one way or the other.. I suggest doing a google pic-search for "bloodletters" and sampling some of the stuff out there if you want ideas. Eitherway, this little fella is looking a helluvalot better than my first Bloodletter did.. So you're off to a good start!
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Those bases are awesome. Daemonreign, is right - pick out the teeth, claws, nails and eyes with a spot of colour. As tedious as it is, that's what will really make these stand out. Try Ogryn Flesh on the blades (or whatever it's called now) and then use chainmail (or whatever it's called now) to drybrush from the blade tip down to the hilt, so that it just touches the high spots of the blade. A touch more attention at the tip will make it look more "worn". Ogryn has a rusty red look to it that will make the metal looked heated. Try mithril silver if you don't have chainmail and when I say drybrush, I mean really DRY brush. Almost as if your dusting the blade. Try a test blade and see what you think.
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Lil' Nurgling
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Ogryn Flesh and a drybrush. I would never have thought of that. Will give it a test tonite.
Do you remember what colors you used on your letters?
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The Eternal Bloodletter

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| QUOTE (HarleyXJGuy @ Jun 11 2012, 07:16 AM) | | Do you remember what colors you used on your letters? |
Are you asking me or Squalie? Or both of us?  Fudge it I'll just give you my answer: My approach to painting Bloodletters has 'evolved' over the course of painting my army. Where I've ended up ( as can be viewed on this thread-page) is a rather tedious method - I reckon: I start with a Foundation of thick yellow (meaning you have to start with one layer of White first, which I mention because I Always prime black  ) Then I apply 5-7 layers of Red Wash on that yellow - starting with carefully washing recesses of muscle sinews etcetera, and you have to let the wash dry completely between each layer too of course. I've found that this gives a dynamic and vibrant tone of red that in my opinion beats every other 'technique' I've tried so far with Bloodletters. If you check this thread-page out you will be able to sample my Bloodcrushers, for example, which I painted by first using the Mechrite Red Foundation, drybrushed yellow, and then applied red wash.. The effect is all right, but not as 'vibrant' as starting with yellow and washing all the way.. I have no particular Picture of the 'first' Bloodletter I painted, but it was a real experiment where I simply primed black and then drybrushed White - and then I Believe I just washed that with Purple and Red Wash. It turned out.. too dark, to say the least. *haha*
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the one point i would like to make is use green stuff on bloodletters... they almost never join up seamlessly and its most noticeable on their head joints, just fill it with green stuff before you paint and they look a lot better when there isn't massive gaps in their forehead lol
but for your first bloodletter, I think you've done remarkably well
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Here's a link to how I painted mine. http://z7.invisionfree.com/wyrmling_x/inde...topic=6519&st=0 Colours are on the last page (I think) with of course a bunch of examples through the pages. I'm a lazy painter and if there's an easier way to paint something - I'll find it.
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Lil' Nurgling
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Ok so here is my first proposed fix to the sword issue. Basic bone.  Yeah or back to the drawing board?
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The Eternal Bloodletter

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| QUOTE (HarleyXJGuy @ Jun 15 2012, 10:51 PM) | | Yeah or back to the drawing board? |
That's for you to decide and nobody else. Subtle difference from the original, but yeah lookin' more Clean. If you are satisfied with it all I would add is really some gloss varnish to the blade.
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Lil' Nurgling
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| QUOTE (DaemonReign @ Jun 16 2012, 03:42 AM) | | QUOTE (HarleyXJGuy @ Jun 15 2012, 10:51 PM) | | Yeah or back to the drawing board? |
That's for you to decide and nobody else. Subtle difference from the original, but yeah lookin' more Clean. If you are satisfied with it all I would add is really some gloss varnish to the blade. |
I agree DR and in the vein I present fix #3 and #4 First it tried this stolen from Squalie here on this forum.  Meh not the worst I have ever seen but not original and not blowing my socks off. As a aside I never figured out why blowing my socks off is a good thing? So I searched my memory banks and came up with a style I did on Blood Angels power swords oh about 10 years ago I guess. Course on them it was blue but same way of doing it.  Sorry about the junk photo and I laugh at that paint job but you get the idea. Now fast forward to now and I present the final solution.  Simple and not to shabby if I do say so. I am thinking I will have more dark color near the bottom of the rest of them, fading almost to black. Also please ignore the messy hilt. I am thinking of doing the hilt and pommel straight black and leave the grip brown? Thanks for looking and your help so far.
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The Eternal Bloodletter

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| QUOTE (HarleyXJGuy @ Jun 17 2012, 06:46 PM) | I am thinking I will have more dark color near the bottom of the rest of them, fading almost to black.
Also please ignore the messy hilt. I am thinking of doing the hilt and pommel straight black and leave the grip brown? |
I think you're on to something there.. Fading to black just by the hilt and then 'shading up' toward the tip of the sword. That'll look awesome when done consecutively over a whole unit. And no worries it's fairly obvious that the hilt in that pic isn't the focus of the study.
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Daemon Prince

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Love that you're experimenting! The recipe for the molten lightning blades in in the thread I linked to. It's actually not that hard - just tedious. The last variation you have could work. Looking at it though, you'd put the same amount of effort into the blades that I did. Just sayin' is all. The black hilt, edged with Space Wolves grey would look cool.
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I think I prefer number 4 and would just paint the hilt black with highlight of your choice.
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Lil' Nurgling
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Good call about the airbrush Col. I would heart having one but it is not in the hobby budget atm. I do bet it would make it TONS easier.
You kind of read my mind about the white on the tip. Sat there for a good while looking at the model thinking about doing that but got distracted with something and never did.
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