Square Based daemons!

I am just starting a dual project.
Part 1 ) Iyanden Eldar
Part 2 ) Tzeentch daemons.

This will end me with 3 40K forces but no WHFB armies.
Unless.... I square base the Tzeentch daemons.

Would you play 40k against an army of Daemons on square bases?
Yes , No , Why?

I know this has been discused in the past but i wanted personnal opinions

I am building mine for dual system support. I mounted on round bases with the thinking that they are going into movement trays anyway so there won't be any ranking issues.

another option is to do 1" square scenic bases on top of your round bases. They will then rank perfectly and still be mounted on round 40k bases for tournies (if that is a consideration).

I don't have a problem with the square bases but it does have a game effect, particularly for demons who always enter via deepstrike. Also kind of changes how models engage in CC, though no to much.

EH

I wouldnt have a problem and use square based daemons at my club and noone complains
(I also have an Iyanden Army by the way)

I used square based daemons so I can play both, no one complains, though I'm sure eventually someone will. That person will just be someone I don't play with. square bases = more important in Fantasy than Round bases are in 40k.

I'm currently trying to come up with a quick and dirty way to swap back and forth. I am thinking magnets...

Tournaments would be the only issue. It does give you an advantage, small but its there. If you are only playing friendlies, unless your mates/local group are complete pricks you should be fine.

As for dealing with it, I have mounted all my models on the base which is smaller and put magnets in them to attach on the larger variant. So 25mm Rounds sit on 25mm Squares (or a movement tray where it doesn't matter , just measure to and from the tray), 40mm Rounds on 40mm Squares, and 50mm Squares sit on 60mm rounds (this has a small edge overlap but measuring to the 60mm round base isnt an issue.) Cavalry and Chariots have no properly defined base size so I just have them on the fantasy bases

the easiest solutions is to get a 1" hirst arts floor tile mold in the pattern you like and mount the 1" square HA tile on top of the round base. You can then do movement trays to match the bases. Super simple, though it does require and investment in the molds.

EH

I've never had an issue with using my square based models, even at the Tournies. As it is, the square bases are actually larger for the smaller models (Bloodletters) and only slightly smaller for the larger bases. I've always given my opponents ANY benefit of the doubt when it comes to LOS or Template weapons...

Yeah, if you're a super competitive person, put them on round. Otherwise no one will care. People ask me about it alot, raise an eyebrow sometimes, but after they start playing they realize how much it doesn't matter. With the new rules about how templates count partials as a full hit, it actually seems a disadvantage since those corners stick out from the model so far. I just happily take my invulnerable saves.

i recently posted a question (answered somewhere above this thread) about mountin squares on rounds. in fact the rounds have to be slightly bigger, and the model is slightly taller, but if anyone complains i'll try those squared based daemons of mine with friendly matches.

anyway, there is a rule that specifically states that 40k has to be played with round bases and fantasy with square bases?


thanxxx!

I'm fairly sure that in 40k, the square bases are technically legal. I say this because RAW according to the new book is that the models have to be based on the size of bases that they come with (or something like that). There is no mention whether those bases need to be round or square. That said, the Dark General's advice is the best. Just give your opponents the benefit of the doubt, and you should get few complaints.

No.

You can actually fit more models in combat against those on square bases than those on a round base. But I mean come on, how anal would you have to be to gripe about different base sizes.

very anal lols, anyway fleshhounds and cavalry are on the same base for both systems
still waiitng for the plastic daemon prince which seems to have fallen off GW radar, still have yet to get round to building my greater brass scorpion

I'm not too happy with GW about that. I mean; they have it on several pictures all over the WoC book - yet we can't buy it. And it's clear it's on a 50mm base, but people are still putting their DPs on 40mm bases.

Well tbh, Dark Lord, one of the CSM Princes comes on a 40mm round and the other comes on a 60mm round. so which should I be choosing for my scratch built DP??

Belakor also comes on a 40mm last I checked (may be wrong here).

So its not exactly a cut and dried case either way...

I personally based my princess on a 50mm square magnetised to a 60mm round but only for stability reasons...Otherwise It'd be on a 40mm base because thats what everyone else in gaming area does for theres