2500 - Is it going to work?

Entirely uncertain about this list but it fits nicely, gives me a good movement phase control, an unimpressive magic phase, a flaming shooting phase and a strong close combat phase.

[550] Greater Unclean One - Army General, Level 1 Wizard, Balesword, Stream of Bile
550 pts in Lords (22%)

[165] Herald of Tzeentch - Level 2 Wizard, Master of Sorcery: Lore of (Life or Shadow?), Spellbreaker
[120] Herald of Slaanesh - Siren Song, Torment Blade
[165] Herald of Khorne - Armour of Khorne, Firestorm Blade, BSB
450 pts in Heroes (18%)

[325] 23 Daemonettes of Slaanesh - Alluress, Standard Bearer: Banner of Ecstasy
[499] 37 Bloodletters of Khorne - Bloodreaper, Musician, Standard Bearer: Icon of Endless War
[060] 5 Chaos Furies
[060] 5 Chaos Furies
944 pts in Core (37.76%)

[220] 4 Fiends of Slaanesh
[140] 4 Flamers of Tzeentch
[140] 4 Flamers of Tzeentch
[055] 1 Fiend of Slaanesh
555 pts in Rares (22.20%)

Total 2499 pts (99.96%)
87 Models

I also can't seem to think up a list I'm happy with, without a GD.

It definitely might work, although I'd lean towards going Shadow over Life for your Herald. The reason why isn't necessarily for Okkam's but Withering or Enfeebling, because in my meta at least, everyone sort of expects you to use your magic dice on Okkam's if you get your Daemonette's into combat. Shadow also helps protect with Enfeebling which in my experience tends to help out a lot with my Bloodletter blocks.

Really hesitant about your choice with Firestorm Blade though, but I guess it really depends on what you end up fighting against, to the point where personally I'd just save those points to spend on more elsewhere, as your army looks mobile enough to silence problem units (such as shooters) before they become too problematic and you can pick your targets pretty well. I'm guessing you want it for problematic Regenerators like War Hydra's then? Even so, you should have enough 'normal' attacks (especially when coupled with Shadow Hexes) that would seriously reduce the effectiveness (in a roundabout way) for Regenerating saves. I.e, you cause so many effective wounds that your opponent isn't going to really 'cut even' even with a Regenerating save if that made any sense.

And you have a Balesword GuO anyway for War Hydra's etc.

Quick note: You can't have 3 units of flamers in 2500 - 8th Ed limits you to 2 of the same rare choice. (You can fix this by taking two units of 6 flamers, exact same points as three units of 4)


It's a good list, my only complaint being the lack of a BSB. It's a hand-to-hand list (as are pretty much all Daemon armies) and as such desperately needs a BSB.

I'd recommend light, shadow or beasts for your tzeentch herald, simply because a level 2 just does not have the magical punch to really deliver with the Lore of light (we went into much greater detail on this in one of the magic lore threads).

Enjoy, it looks pretty sound.

-und_ed

There is a BSB in the list; the Khorne Herald has one, unless you mean an actual BSB Banner.

its a really solid list but I would go with 5 fiends together instead of 1 alone, you already have 2 5 furies units to haunt and screen. I would go with shadow or beasts with this list.

Maybe your eyes were tired? ;p
There are 2 units of 4, not 3 units of 4.
There is also a BSB (Khorne Herald) but no Magic Banner for it.

And I'll think about Beasts instead of Life, but Light wasn't part of my plan!

I was suggested the exact opposite on warseer haha, I had 5 fiends initially but hadn't thought about the solo fiend, as its incredibly useful to have an extra available hunter when facing warmachine heavy lists (Empire and Dwarfs are very common in my area and I oh so hate the players who stay at the back edge of their side and simply "cannonize" me). So I might have to try it out before deciding for certain.

oops. Looks like I blundered twice in one reading. I blame the booze.

Happy New Year's, people.

-und_ed

I was thinking of changing the list a bit to fit in 2x 1 Bloodcrusher, solo mean machines that can hunt small stuff and come back to bite the enemy in their rear~

solo Bloodcrushers are pretty awesome as I'm pretty sure Maynard can testify.

All of these options are good ones. your character and core choices are so solid that you can take whatever peripheral units you want and still get good mileage out of them. one fiend hammer, solo fiend plus 4 friends, solo crushers, these are all good. Vs empire and dwarf gun lines, you might want the fiends for added survivability against cannons and a big fiend unit if you see ogres. The larger unit will be harder for the ironblaster to shoot around.

After reading a bit I'm considering dropping all the Khorne stuff in favor of a Lv 4 Horror block.

I'm so undecided x:

I don't know what I'm doing, but thats ok.

[550] Greater Unclean One - Army General, Level 1 Wizard, Balesword, Stream of Bile
550 pts in Lords (22%)

[120] Herald of Slaanesh - Siren Song, Torment Blade
[125] Herald of Khorne - Firestorm Blade
[240] Herald of Tzeentch - Level 2 Wizard, Master of Sorcery: Lore of Beasts, Spellbreaker, Sundering BSB
485 pts in Heroes (19.40%)

[216] 16 Daemonettes of Slaanesh - Alluress, Standard Bearer
[379] 27 Bloodletters of Khorne - Bloodreaper, Standard Bearer: Icon of Endless War, Musician
[390] 31 Horrors of Tzeentch - Standard Bearer, Musician
[060] 5 Chaos Furies
[060] 5 Chaos Furies
1105 pts in Core (44.20%)

[140] 4 Flamers of Tzeentch
[110] 2 Fiends of Slaanesh
[110] 2 Fiends of Slaanesh
360 pts in Rares (14.40%)

Total 2500 pts (100%)

Horrors! O:
A more magical list, mainly to cast cheap bolt of change and have my beast HoT in there. Better magic defense with the Sundering banner - should prove useful against Lizzies.

So how's the list, competitive & solid or do I have a "weak link" somewhere in it? I guess template war machines could reduce horrors below 26 quite fast though.

I say the Firestorm Blade is the 'weak' link, but I sort of think that for Flaming Attacks in general considering people can just spend 5 points to negate it. Still, it does help out on Regenerating like Hydra's.

I personally think you need more Daemonette's if you take Beast Lore, if only because they rock with it (I haven't thought to try Pink Horrors with it) and I think Beasts is kind of wasted on Bloodletter's.

Firestorm Blade is excellent against everything that doesn't involve characters ;D
and imagine facing off a Troll Horde and I forget if Ogres can still get a unit with regen on it...

Herald chops off Regen and bloodletters can do their stuff.

But I'm not sure how to change the list to have more daemonettes - I'm quite stuck with whats on it I think... unless I start dropping fiends or flamers ;/

That's a good point, but if I was playing you I'd probably think to destroy your Daemonette's relatively quickly if only to get the 'easy' victory points from them.