2000pt list, not playing nice anymore

Hey guys,

After quite a few games and being re-directed every 5 minutes by furies or skinks, I've decided to go a different way and play fire with fire, and try and stay away from magic as I find it unreliable.
Here's what I'm thinking:

Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165

7 furies 84
8 furies 96
3x 10 horrors 360

8 Flesh hounds 280
8 Flesh hounds 280
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
6 flamers 210

total 2000

PD: 5, DD: 5

Any thoughts?

Well it's your basic high powered DoC list that's about as tough as it gets.

You still can be redirected as you dont' have a lot of units but you do have enough shooting to remove some of those threats.

True, a couple of mods I thought of last night:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne 165

6 furies 72
6 furies 72
3x 10 horrors 360

8 Flesh hounds 280
8 Flesh hounds 280
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
6 flamers 210

total 1999

PD: 5, DD: 5

Nice list, rock hard if you ask me. I would rather see 3 units of flesh hounds though, try and play 3x 5 of them, one more unit to worry about.
If you face lizardmen regularly then you're going to have serious trouble VC magic, you need a sundering banner in that list, a slann bringing lore of light is HORRIBLE, really!

Cheers!

That is true, however, all I've had with a BSB is bad luck, you know the type of luck that you can't buy: double 1s on LD test but having to re-roll due to the BSB and get double 6s or 6 attacks wounding on 2s and getting six 1s, you just can't buy that.
So I'm not too sure, I see your point but reluctant in the way of it being a BSB and I'd have to find 75 points (maybe 2 flamers and.....)
Like this:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne+firestorm blade+BSB+Sundering 265

6 furies 72
6 furies 72
3x 10 horrors 360

5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Screamers 150

5 flamers 175
5 flamers 175

total 1994

PD: 5, DD: 5

But I think I prefer the 8 FHS as you're more likely to get out number than just with 5 and maybe a +1 CR. Tough call as you say, I would have another unit for the flancs

You do know you only have to re-roll the test if you fail right?

Running your list with 3x5 units of fleshhounds always works better for me. You are paying 105 points for the extra rank, and with just two wounds you lose the +1 Cr. with the extra unit, you give your opponent an extra target. As far as the redirects by the skinks...I have used this tatic to great success. I will keep my furies close to my flesh hounds. Declare a charge with both. Move the fleshhounds first, and then catch them with the furies. It takes the FH out of the game for about a turn, but it takes care of the pesty stinks.

You do know you only have to re-roll the test if you fail right?

That's actually quite an issue of debate.

I thought it was FAQ'd and you had to re-roll? no expert on the rules so could be wrong, please enlighten me

In the rulebook it says you can chose not to re-roll but if the test is failed then you have to use the re-roll. Stopping voluntarily fleeing..
HOWEVER, with us daemons we don't really know what "failed" means, but I would say you can always re-roll if you wish for a (hopefully) better result. But know this, you never have to re-roll snakeyes as they count as an automatic "pass".


Cheers!

As Atrocity points out there are some conflicting rules (and past precedents) in the DoC BSB situation.

There is NO FAQ on this yet.

Gary
Direwolf DoC FAQ representative

Nice list Shadow, best of luck with it!




GoC

thanks for the input guys, I suppose people will moan at the 2x 5 flamers but it's just as bad as 2x EotG lol

Hey guys,

Has thre been any update with the BSB rule?
Also I've thought of maybe adding a unit of letters to put the BSB in, not sure if it's worth it though:

Skulltaker+Jugger 200
Herald of Khorne+Jugger+Armour of Khorne+firestorm blade+BSB+Sundering 265

7 furies 84
6 furies 72
2x 10 horrors 240
16 bloodletters with champ, standard 216

5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Flesh hounds 175
5 Screamers 150

6 flamers 210
6 flamers 210

total 1997

I'd drop the bloodletter champ and take a basic musician.