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eastern barbarian - January 27, 2012 03:44 AM (GMT)
Hi there. In March we are going to have smallish 2.5 tournament (one day, only 3 games, hence I dont expect as much interest as Brighton Warlords events usually get).
So going with my fearie court demons theme (that mostly means a lot of alternative models) I am going for LD mind-messing army:

Keeper (level 4, siren song, torment blade)

Herald of Slaanesh (siren song, torment blade)

Herald of Nurgle (BSB, Greater Icon of Despair, Noxious Vapours)

6 furies

25 demonettes with FC and siren standard

25 demonettes with FC

25 plaguebearers with FC and banner of seeping decay

fiend

fiend
bloodcrusher

bloodcrusher

5 flamers


no bloodletters as i didnt find suitable alternative models for them and i hate GW khorne stuff.

What do you think guys? Couple of things i can change:

flamers- I know they sound like a must have but maybe dropping them and getting extra 3 fiends and extra demon for one of the core units? Banners in units good idea or not? (definitely want siren standard but how about banner of seeping decay?)

Thanks in advance

bonesaww666 - January 27, 2012 04:35 AM (GMT)
Don't really know what you would be willing to drop but I would try to get another Slaanesh Herald for the other 'nettes unit even if she is buck nekkid ASF is a near must without 'letters around (increase damage potential) and I would think about taking Stream of Bile on the HoN as it can give them the edge they need to win certain combats.

LAV-Kitsune- - January 27, 2012 09:02 AM (GMT)
Humm, I would think that if you get 6 flamers you should drop almost all of the other rare choices or remove some characters which on the other hand would make your list bit weaker. I would drop Noxious vapours, one jugger and one torment blade to get another herald though. Daemonettes without herald are bit helpless to be honest. Herald in a unit will increase number of attacks from 7 to 10,67 if you deploy in ranks of 7 and will let you strike first against delfs and welfs and actually get a chance to strike helfs too. You could then drop one champion to get torment blades for both heralds or drop some more stuff to get 3rd siren song. Single juggers are bit meh in my opinion, but thats more of a personal choice.

eastern barbarian - January 27, 2012 12:15 PM (GMT)
Single juggers are there for character assassination. I am aware I could do with another herald here, not sure what to drop really. Noxious Vapour give really good protection to my Nurgle herald. What do you guys think, perhaps I should drop flamers and get herald plus another fiend?

eastern barbarian - February 3, 2012 12:10 AM (GMT)
guys, would you risk this list without flamers and more fiends instead? say dropping 5 flamers, getting second HoS and then one or two more fiends if i get points off something else as well?

LAV-Kitsune- - February 3, 2012 08:14 AM (GMT)
Well, most of your army moves really fast and thus Flamers do not have much time to shoot. Switching them to fiends or herald could be a good idea. I do not fancy juggers as character killers since they are quite easy to avoid. Also they are ok at wizard assasination, but will struggle a bit with fighty choices that would have some ward saves and weaponskill on their defense. Mainly their unreliability to actually kill important characters is reason why I dislike them. I am sceptic but have heard that some people have done really well with them though.

eastern barbarian - February 3, 2012 03:25 PM (GMT)
ok, thanks for your input. what do others think?
I wanted to include juggers for bit of variety but I am not really dead set on them to be honest. Saying that some extra unit even just to deal with chaff would be good.

eastern barbarian - February 10, 2012 02:02 AM (GMT)
ok, I would really need your input on this guys- I was thinking about dropping flamers and bloodcrushers and options i have is either: HoT with wings and master of sorcery (beasts) for buffing units/characters , HoS (perhaps with another siren song) or HoT with above set and 3 extra fiends. Which one would be better in your opinion?

LAV-Kitsune- - February 10, 2012 09:47 AM (GMT)
I would definately keep the flamers on your list. After all you have lots of leadership bombing, so some extra panic tests are always useful. Extra wizard doesnt sound too useful though, but I know what you are trying to achieve with one. I would still stay with one lore and throw bolts and buffs with it instead of having extra lore. Beast could be useful for daemonettes though. Extra HoS would be really helpful though, even without siren song, because daemonettes really do need herald to babysit them. So I would say that pick exta HoS and keep the flamers. If you need to drop something, drop one jugger, one fury and some core daemons to get points for it.

eastern barbarian - February 10, 2012 01:32 PM (GMT)
ok, cheers for that. completely forgot about panic tests ha ha :)


Reshuffling things a bit I could have:

Keeper (level 4, siren song, torment blade)

Herald of Slaanesh (siren song, torment blade)

herald of slaneesh (torment blade)

Herald of Nurgle (BSB, Greater Icon of Despair, Noxious Vapours)

5 furies

25 demonettes with FC and siren standard

25 demonettes with FC

25 plaguebearers with FC and banner of seeping decay

fiend

2x fiends


5 flamers


Now question is- are noxious vapour better than siren song? Already got two siren songs, shall I take third? Thing is that my BSB is pretty crucial for that army so noxious vapours do increase his survivial chance a lot. What do people think?

LAV-Kitsune- - February 10, 2012 01:52 PM (GMT)
I would much rather give the herald vomit. It can kill over half of the models from nasty things like skaven slave anvil or break units from combat really easily. Also, with vomit you can cause even more panic tests which is cool with ld bombing. You have level 4 KoS in there so you will likely get ASF+rerolls spell and that will surely help Plaguebearers which is pretty much only good target for the spell on your army. I would also say that 3 siren songs is pretty much overkill. You dont have that much units to flank and benefit from the siren song. So you kind of miss some potential there. I would much rather pick soul hunger for KoS to deal with big monsters and characters instead (personal preference only).

eastern barbarian - February 10, 2012 08:40 PM (GMT)
ok, food for thought definitely. Vomit does sound good actually so I will give it a go I guess and you are right, it does have great potential against weak T armies. Thanks for your input.

eastern barbarian - February 26, 2012 04:34 PM (GMT)
ok guys, played few battles with that army and finally decided to have following list:

Keeper (level 4, siren song, torment blade)

tzeentch herald (loremaster beasts, wings)

Herald of Slaanesh (siren song, torment blade)

herald of slaneesh (torment blade)

Herald of Nurgle (BSB, Greater Icon of Despair, stream of bile)

5 furies

25 demonettes with FC and siren standard

25 demonettes with FC

25 plaguebearers with FC and banner of seeping decay

fiend

2x fiends

Now that leaves me with 25 points to use.

Somebody suggested giving keeper allure of slaneesh since its a LD bomb list and with torment blade there is potential for opponent taking TWO LD tests before he can strike back. Any ideas?


brother_maynard - February 26, 2012 04:44 PM (GMT)
i'd give her soul hunger instead so she can handle T6 gribblies without breaking a sweat. i also hate hittings on 3's and wounding on 2's and rolling 2-3 1's, especially vs mournfangs.

eastern barbarian - February 26, 2012 05:14 PM (GMT)
hm..i was considering that as well.. any other ideas guys?

brother_maynard - March 10, 2012 02:26 AM (GMT)
have you played this event already? how did it go? if not, one suggestion i would make from my own experience with 2 nette units but only one herald is this: knock one down to 20 bodies and give them the banner of ecstasy and put the leftover girls into the other unit. run the herald in the larger unit to maximize the benefits of the locus and use the other as a chaff unit with 3 ranks and a flag. there's a lot of situations where they'll prove useful and with the stubborn banner, you can shove them in front of something REALLY nasty to hold it up until you can get your keeper to sort it out. just a thought, let us know how it went...

eastern barbarian - March 10, 2012 03:13 AM (GMT)
no, i havent played yet, tournament is on 18th. I am running two slaneesh heralds in my list though.. are you suggesting dropping one? Because otherwise I will simply not have those 25pts for banner of ecstasy... although idea sounds very tempting. What do you reckon then, just one herald? If i drop one herald and give them banner of ecstasy it leaves me 70 points.
That could get me one bloodcrusher or 5 extra demonettes putting my big unit at 35 (and 10 points left with which there is nothing i can do ha ha. well, apart from putting slime trail on the nurgle BSB herald). I got this weekend to finalize army list.

brother_maynard - March 10, 2012 12:26 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (eastern barbarian @ Mar 9 2012, 10:13 PM)
I am running two slaneesh heralds in my list though.. are you suggesting dropping one?

i'm not suggesting you drop one necessarily, but that is one way in which i've run 2 nette units while only having the pts for one herald. my eyes just tricked me as i skimmed your list and i thought i saw only one HoS. according to most of the players on this site, a nette unit is simply not worth it if it doesn't have a herald. i disagree and the above setup is the way i prefer to run them. it was somewhat of a reaction to the ETC siren song ban on heralds, so i figured that instead of siren songing a particular unit into my stubborn nettes, i would just shove the unit in their face so they have no choice but to charge it.

i've found that a lot of times, my daemonettes are put into situations that allow me to come out with a win, but they always seem to die hideously in the process. i figured that if a unit is going to be used like that, its not always beneficial to give up a herald as well.

anyway, your list looks good, i love the setup on the keeper!

eastern barbarian - March 10, 2012 04:05 PM (GMT)
ok, thank you for your comments, i actually decided its worth trying and managed to shift things around and fit couple more bits in, as i realised i need more chaff :)

Keeper (level 4, siren song, torment blade, soul hunger)

tzeentch herald (loremaster beasts, wings)

Herald of Slaanesh (siren song, torment blade)

Herald of Nurgle (BSB, Greater Icon of Despair, stream of bile, )

5 furies

29 demonettes with FC and siren standard

20 demonettes with FC and banner of ecstasy

24 plaguebearers with FC and banner of seeping decay

fiend
fiend
bloodcrusher
bloodcrusher

eastern barbarian - March 13, 2012 02:58 PM (GMT)
had a test battle against TK yesterday and I am pleased to say I managed to withstand withering hail of arrows and catapults and proceeded to annihilate his army completely :)

Lets see how its gonna work on the tournament ha ha :)

eastern barbarian - March 18, 2012 10:08 PM (GMT)
list did really well- first battle vs lizardmen i lost 8-12( i only slept two hours and wasnt with it.. up to a point of forgetting to siren song lizard general on carnousaurus on last wound into my keeper!), second game totally massacred greenskins 20-0 (only points i gave away was for bloodcrusher that was forced to jump on mangler squig) and final battle against very tough VC list and my keeper getting 8 wounds from the scream only to save 5 of them!




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