Title: 1750pt list for new player
shadow - October 16, 2011 09:46 PM (GMT)
Hi all,
New to Daemons at 40k, stopped playing fantasy so going to use them at 40k, been trawling the net and like the idea of something like this:
HQ: 608
Fateweaver 333
Bloodthirster - 275
blessing of the blood god, unholy might
Elite: 400
4 Bloodcrushers full command 200
4 Bloodcrushers full command 200
Troops: 310
5 Pink Horrors 85
5 Plaguebearers 75
5 Plaguebearers 75
5 Plaguebearers 75
Heavy: 430
Daemon Prince of Nurgle - 215
-Daemonic flight, cloud of flies, noxious touch, iron hide 215
Daemon Prince of Nurgle - 215
-Daemonic flight, cloud of flies, noxious touch, iron hide 215
Total = 1748
Squads = 10
I think it's standard but would like ideas/suggestions
Thanks
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deviant cadaver - October 17, 2011 09:34 PM (GMT)
You could do with less Plaguebearers and more horrors with bolt.
shadow - October 18, 2011 09:27 AM (GMT)
I think I posted this in the wrong section, can admin move it please?
deviant cadaver - October 18, 2011 10:58 PM (GMT)
Depending on the meta you might also want to change the princes to Tzeench with bolt. You can then use the extra points to get more crushers or a unit of fiends.
shadow - October 21, 2011 03:25 PM (GMT)
Thanks for the replies, drop the troops down to 3 units of horrors and change the mark on the daemon princes then.
Would it not be best to have Toughness 5 and feel no pain to hold objectives instead of BS 3 horrors?
wisdomseyes1 - October 23, 2011 01:54 AM (GMT)
For objectives plagues are better.
For killing transports, horrors have the advantage of a 10 point bolt of change. And there are plenty of transports in 40k
voidwraith - October 23, 2011 11:14 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (shadow @ Oct 21 2011, 10:25 AM) |
| Would it not be best to have Toughness 5 and feel no pain to hold objectives instead of BS 3 horrors? |
It's funny...you highlighted the strengths of the plaguebears and a weakness of the horrors. What about their 4+ save and the fact that they can actually deal out damage at a decent range. The BS 3 can be maddening if/when you fail to hit with that single bolt, but warp fire being assault3 really makes up for any to hit issues.
I doubt I'd ever field a unit of plaguebearers in a universe where not all missions have objectives, and the ones that do can still be won by tabling my opponent. Offense will always be a good defense.
shadow - October 23, 2011 04:43 PM (GMT)
I could do something like this:
HQ: 608
Fateweaver 333
Bloodthirster - 275
blessing of the blood god, unholy might
Elite: 400
4 Bloodcrushers full command 200
4 Bloodcrushers full command 200
Troops: 307
6 Pink Horrors 117
- Bolt of Tzeentch, The Changeling
5 Pink Horrors 95
- Bolt of Tzeentch
5 Pink Horrors 95
- Bolt of Tzeentch
Heavy: 430
Daemon Prince of Nurgle - 215
-Daemonic flight, cloud of flies, noxious touch, iron hide 215
Daemon Prince of Nurgle - 215
-Daemonic flight, cloud of flies, noxious touch, iron hide 215
Total = 1745
Squads = 9
wisdomseyes1 - October 23, 2011 05:45 PM (GMT)
I see nothing particularly bad about the list.
I could talk about How I think daemonic flight is too many points and deepstriking + running is enough to get you to close combat with a nurgle prince (and moving is enough to be in range for shooting on a Tzeentch one) but others will disagree and say the 12" move is invaluable.
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I would use a Tzeentch prince of the Nurlge ones for more bolts and the 4++ save that gets rerolled by karios.
1 unit of bloodcrushers is usually all you need in fatecrusher (at least at 1500...)
Though that is what I would do, you probably play differently than me (especially since I play my daemons like I play my nidz)
