Hi,
I have hade my Miniatures now for just under 2 weeks and I have sold them all. Why you cry. Well there is not one miniature that is really good or better than the old ones, in my opinion

There are a few exceptions but first off I would like to hear your opinions to the new daemons and if possible not that you love them and find them great.

We have heard that long enough now. What do you really dislike about them?

I have made a round up of what I think of the new minis and why but first would like to hear what others dislike.

i think epidemus is one of the coolest and most characterful models ever sculpted by GW. Apart from that i'm keeping my old-school hellblade 'letters & chunky juggers. Yeh, theres not much point in getting the new models if you already have the older ones but i'm happy with that: i was most excited about the book anyway.

I hate the new daemonettes. I hate them so much. I want to throw them into the sun. They are way too chunky and thick and not lithe and sensual in the way that I feel Daemonettes should be. And their claws are too small. The 6th ed daemonettes were just such amazing sculpts...

I don't like the Fiends either. They look ridiculous.

Other than all of that I'm really happy with how the new models turned out. Since I'm just starting my army I don't have to worry about having older models. :o

I think the fiends are the worst of the bunch for me. Just plain silly looking. The rest of the stuff has grown on me over the last little bit, but I didn't order a spearhead so that tells you I'm not 100% sold. I already have a ton of projects in the works and a big part of those is sculpting my own stuff and I know not everyone wants to do that so that's just me.

Here's my personal rating of the new minis (new/old), 5 is max:

letters 4/3
nettes 3/4
crusher 5/na
hounds 3/2
beast 3/na
fiends 5/3

I think most of you will disagree with me on the fiends, but I can't help myselft, I just love them! They look exactly like they should, daemonic, weird, unsettling, slaanesh...

However, I will go amok in the GW store if seekers are gone forever (the models), and if they don't bring out a plastic box for normal heralds! Also horrors should get a command group asap.

cheers

Bloodletters are ok, but I still prefer the 6th edition ones.

Don't overly like the flesh hounds, went to rackham for mine.

New jugger is lovely. But I'm not paying for a new set when my old ones are still doing the job.

Daemonettes aren't much cop, 6th edition ones were superb. I understand why they were changed though.

Fiends are a vast improvement on the 5th edition ones, bigger and better. Not to my personal taste though.

Skulltaker is nice from the front. Cloak is a bit shoddy though.

Palanquin is nice, still prefer the old one though. The bloke on top is a bit "undefined" to my eye.

Not keen on Karanak at all. Wouldn't pay a pound, let alone ten.


Lastly - where are the new daemon princes? Thats something that I would really have liked to see.

I like the Fiends. Really like them.

Other than that I'm rather unimpressed by anything.

Hounds are clunky and awkward, with broken legs abound. Keranek is an abomination.

I've never liked the cone/Alien-head Bloodletter design.

Daemonettes, as with 'letters, were perfect in their last incarnation.

Beast is a swirly slug :blink:

Juggernaught looks even more rounded and 40k.

Think I'll stick to what I've already got....

I like most of the new miniatures, Fiends and Daemonettes included. The Fiends look like the old ones but bigger (which is nice) and the daemonettes apart from being plastic are great, disturbing and alluring rather than p*rn with claws.

The only one I really don’t like is Epidemius. I’m not saying I can do better but it looks amateurish. The Nurgle command and beast of nurgle are not great either, I saw far better conversions during SoC than those sculpts.

For me the biggest thing is that the re-do has been a bit lacklustre as far as new releases go. New units and options with no new models (heralds, daemon princes and no tzeentch at all) and even existing models being pulled despite being in the book as a unit (Seekers of Slaanesh).

All this from the company that a few months ago said they were not going to be producing any new armies that are not “fully supported with miniatures”. So what are they playing at?

Cheers

Vogon

I like the Bloodletters and the Daemonettes, I think they are amazing models. I also like the Masque, Skulltaker and Epidemius, though I think Epidmius looks a little "worse" than those before mentioned. Otherwise a nice model. I like the Flesh Hounds, but I don't like their dragging feet, which is probably the only downside on them. Beast of Nurgle is a little... well boring if you ask me. I love the Bloodcrusher and I like the Fiend.

Did I forget something? Overall I think they did good, of course some could be better but I'm satisfied.

I can definately say I don't like the Aly Morrisson Nurgle goo. All his daemon sculpts lack definition and look a bit amateuristic. He did a good job on the spawns, but his latest sculpts are crap.

I think the daemonettes and bloodletters are great, but the bloodletters could do with a bit more variation, they all look alike to me.

The fleshhounds just aren't my cup of tea, they're just way off from the way that I invision hellhounds.

The juggernaut is well.....I guess not what I invisioned either.

The coolest minis are the soulgrinder and the masque IMO.

Daemonettes...meh. I will use them, and some parts of them are pretty cool, but overall they are nothing amazing.
Fiends, amazing. Just how they should look.
Flesh hounds, I like the idea behind them, and so like the models a fair bit, but can see why others hate them.
Letters, good as well. Same with the juggernaught. Prefer them the the 6th ed ones, though those were good as well.
Soulgrinder-seeing as I love the concept, I like the model. Could have made it look a little more like the one on the front of the 40K book though... But overall, brilliant for chaos giant conversions.
I like the new nurghul command, epidemus is OK but a bit too undetailed, and the beast doesn't appeal to me at all.

I shouldn't comment until I actually own the new models and have looked them over in person, but I really like the look of the new plastic Bloodletters and Daemonettes. I also like the Fiends and Fleshhounds. The Jugger and Beast are nice, but the single pose is a big drawback for me.

The less said about the other Nurgle models the better.

Same boat here,i thing everything looks great,but the nurgle chap is a real lazy sculpt IMO.Bring back the old 3rd edition ones

The Juggers (not the riders), Flesh Hounds and Epidemius are amazing IMO. Juggernauts have gotten bigger and are not as stationary, great!
Flesh Hounds are huge! And I love that they got their reptilian sails back!
Epidemius is just bloated and gross, just as he is meant to be!

Everything else is just pure crap! The Bloodletters look like dryads mixed with hunched backs like the new ghouls, as well as blades that are bigger than half their size, ridiculous!
The Daemonettes have gotten the old crabclaws back, instead of the slender beautiful claws in the 6th edition. And they have HAIR? What!? I prefer the tentacles.
Skulltaker looks stupid with horns all over his face, I myself will be running Formor Fiends as Heralds.

The best thing was that they released the old heads for the greater daemons, as they are ALL better IMO, with the exception of GUO's tounge, but that's easily removed.

The model I was most dissapointed with was Epidemius. It just seems to lack detail and the nurglings looks like bloobs of clay not modified by a skulpting tool after being put there at all. The rest Im more then happy with.

When it comes to Infantry, I'm finding myself VERY VERY spoiled for choice.

Game-wise... I wouldn't be without my Plaguebearers so converting them from Ghouls will almost certainly happen.

But I also think that the Bloodletter and Daemonette models are gorgeous and would look amazing when fully ranked up in large units.

I don't like the Hounds and will likely use Warhounds or Dire Wolves.

I'm having a tough time balancing army selection and what I want to use!

The biggest thing i was upset about is they got rid of the pleasure seekers i thought they would of been much better than a feind of slaanesh, i do not like the daemonettes and will stick with last editions, but i willl get a box for the command peices as the older ones they gave out for SOC were a lil flimsy IMO, the rest of them are ok, i am picky i guess but they could of done a lot better with most of them, the khorn models are probably the better ones and a command unit for horros would of been nice as well. and no chariots is very sad as well (i think only a herald can be on one) but like some of you i will wait until the book is here and i see the models, maybe something might impress me more lol. until then i will stick with the older ones or make my own stuff

I don't know, for some reason I really like all the minis. They just kind of do it for me.

I also love the demonettes for not being fidely tiny metal minis.

well the compleet lack of any new tzeentch models kinda upsets me No herald models, No Special charcter models and No horror command group. It's Kinda retarded that they expect a new race to take of with half of the models missing allready.

have you checked the warmaster model range? Some lovely Tzeentch herald models there, plus you get two in one pack. One is birdlike with wings (like a mini LoC) and the other is humanoid but wrapped in flames. (Can't find the damn things though, the image on the online store doesn't work...)

It is the lack of plastic horrors that really irritates me, especially since they are supposed to be used un fairly large numbers, or at least smallish numbers with several units.
Even the bare minimum, 30 horrors, costs around £60 :wacko: .

In pictures the only New models I liked was the Khorne stuff. I couldn't and still can't stand any of the Slannesh stuff, and I've never liked Nurgle so :P.

Since seeing the models first hand this has dropped to liking ONLY the Jugger.

I don't know what it is I don't like about the plastic Bloodletters, and indeed those on the Juggers, but there is just something that strikes me as wrong, and not in a cool chaosy way. :(

Perhaps it's the budding Slannesh player in me finally kicking out the Khorne player thats held me for years. The legs, groin and chest areas of the new Letters would look so much better even with just a loin cloth or a scrap of chainmail or SOMETHING....!


And Fleshhounds...well I'm yet to see the models first hand but I don't think there gonna be that much better than the pictures where like 1 might look okay.

@ Erowyythluu, nether dweller

you mean this one?

http://uk.games-workshop.com/storefront/ne...ze=A&Img=253163

haven't got a clue how big this one is but this seems to be smaller then a kneeling horror nice model but just a bit to small

its pretty weird that epidemus isn't getting much respect! I can only assume that the people claiming that he’s lacking in detail haven’t seen the model; maggots fall from his mouth out onto his chest, nurglings clutch, climb and peer over his palanquin, his hand rests on a really cool time glass etc. I mean he's a big bloated baby sitting on a chair!! how can you not love him? I think perhaps the main reason that people don't like him is that he's more comical than threatening but i think thats cool. Beats the hell out of fashion-parade skulltaker in my opinion anyway.

I actually traded my new skulltaker for 3 plague bearers (I know it wasn’t economical but I really wanted to continue work). Fiends are definitely my least favorite models though.

The Epidemus model is an amazing model, brilliant even, for the character it is supposed to portray. Alas that God and that Character, and thus the model, disgusts me in numerous ways and I would never EVER own one. :P

Still props to the sculptor...if I liked the model it certainly wouldn't be very Nurgley. :lol:

On the subject of Fiends, I've never liked that style so I don't like the new ones. I'll be using the good old boobworm with the rider taken off and work done to remove the saddle, etc... :D

I like all of the new models - perhaps because I'm new to daemons and don't have preconceptions on how things "should" look. I've begun work with the new bloodletters and the sprue is quite flexible when it comes to poses - which I much prefer to the older, static-looking metal models.

As for horrors, and plague bearers, I'm miffed that they don't have plastics for them too - so I'll be leaving nurgle alone for a year or so until they (hopefully) get their act together, and as for the horrors.....well I never saw the point of paying that kind of cash for something so easy to self-sculpt. A little GS, a few spare bits from a chaos spawn sprue (something that I have plenty of) and bang - a unit of horrors for a fraction of the price.

I love the new minis (with a few exceptions). And the fact that the daemonettes are plastic means easier conversions for the parts I want to change! I really loved the 6th ed. ones, but after spending some time at the new sprues (already have some), I must confess I'm seduced... raaahhhh, daemonettes!

you speak truth for a great many.....

I think they are great, really evocative of the old Realms Of Chaos artwork and miniature style. Nice to see bloodletters with axes and the return of the oft-maligned crab claws.

I do like the new bloodletters/bloodcrusher. As for the hounds they look like a lizard men unit and the new nettes do not appeal to me.

I'm glad I don't like Slaanesh rules-wise, because I hate it model-wise. There's not a new Slaanesh model that I like (read: I despise all of them). The old stuff was fantastic, really great stuff, but the new Daemonettes look incredibly awkward, and the Fiends, with their 5 sets of breasts are just stupid-looking. The Masque has 3 arms (erm, even Tzeentch stuff isn't that random in most cases), and the comedy/tragedy stick is out-of-place. None of the Slaanesh models look alluring whatsoever, not the way they used to, and as far as disturbing goes... The Fiends insect heads are disturbing, I guess.

Khorne models are right on-the-spot. I love the new Bloodletters, they're my favorite new models, and the Bloodcrushers are awesomesauce with a Bloodletter on top. Skulltaker is a little awkward, it just takes up too much space. I hate Nurgle in all its forms, not just because of the models, although Epidemius looks funny and the Beasts are just stupid.

I love Tzeentch's new models though! Oh, wait... *Goes off to sulk in a dark corner*

reaper, under "demon" seems to have stuff for slannesh and khorne. even released at the same time as the new book it appears (LOL). but remember those models are not allowed, tabletopwise, in many places.

One of my friend uses Black Tree models in his Elves and our local GW doesnt mind, I think it is just Tournements that put in place the "Games-Workshop models only" rule

I think all of you hating on nurgle is because you just like your metallic porn from the last edition slaanesh.

To the group of you who keep wanting plastic PBs- why? The models would not break down very well in to plastics, and would look terrible (even for servants of the god of decay!) if they were plastics.

I for one, will keep on with metal PBs, and while I think GW should have put out more herald figs (on foot and mounted), and that tzeentch needs some love (comeon, $25 for 3 flamers?) that the figs they released were pretty good.

Old bloodletters are horrid anyhow.

Wow, looks like we have some real good personal impresions of the new modells here, good one. Did not think this thread would make such an impresion, carry on with the good comments

Why are female breasts porn? Maybe in america but in the rest of the world they are just normal and can be seen in any shower commercial. If you think that is porn you realy should think about what you are saying there. But I suppose that is your point of view

As for PB they would be great in plastic, just look what people are doing with the new gouhls converting a little and useing them as very cheap PB and they look fantastic!

"Old bloodletters are horrid anyhow"

So are the new ones!

as a slaanesh player, i love the new bloodletters. i can see what i have always known about them. they don't have a pair.

Oh the new bloodletter models are wonderful, and an absolute pleasure to paint. So nice, the way they sculpted all the recesses into the model, the washes seem to be made for them.

Plus it's nice to have a few models that I don't have to worry about paint chipping off of. Stupid metal Horrors...

I still maintain that the new Slaanesh models are craptastic.

Yes, in America breasts = porn. I feel otherwise, I think that tasteful nudity is fine in any situation, but you can't convince the prudes that live here otherwise. Oh well, what're ya gonna do?

I'm quite happy with my 1st Edition / 2nd Edition Plaguebearers. 3rd Edition does have a distinct lack of personality comparatively speaking.

Current blood letters are better than most other editions (beside the metal beastmen looking ones - but those are difficult to convert).

1st Edition Daemonettes are my favorite still.

1st Edition blue horrors are the best horror models (pink are ok, but really too big to rank up).

Female breasts became porn since GW abandoned its core of faithful adult gamers to concentrate on tempting more kids whose parents have much money into the hobby.

That said I actually quite like some of the new daemonettes, the mohican head is a little weird but in the main I like the bodies and the faces. The lack of nudity isn't an issue for me (and I think those people it is an issue for were probably viewing it as porn anyway).

The reason I'm not doing Slaanesh is that the fiends are the worst models in the daemon range, it just looks like they smashed up half a dozen old models and green stuffed bits of them together in the most awkward way possible, they don't look fast, or lithe, or dexterous in any way, they look bulky, awkward and ridiculous, and that furry stinger just reminds me of the old Empire spears.

The nurgle stuff is well sculpted, but that doesn't mean I can't hate it, the bloated pustules and slime everywhere just don't look good no matter how well it is done IMHO, but thats nurgle and thats why I play Khorne.

Now the Khorne stuff, everything is perfect, the new letters are amazing, the juggers are awesome and my personal favourite, the Flesh Hounds are so much better than I imagined them to look like.

Slaanesh doesn't require that you buy his/her/its fiends, that you feel disgust upon gazing at thier perfection satiates his lust... for now.

I like most of the new daemon models, with the exception of feinds and flesh hounds.

The new daemonettes are perfect IMO, i know the old ones were good, but the new ones allow much more flexability and most likly will stop some of the worries over protective parents had (Because sadly the target audience has been lowered a bit) The new daemonettes also have such great posses and allow for greater painting options. As for the masque, doesnt fit well with the new models, but i cant judge as i dont own one yet, just from the photo's, the three arm theme i kinda associate with slaanesh already, probally due the slaanesh army in the Hordes of Chaos army book and a couple really nice GD models.

Feinds are terrible models, to chunky, hairy and, well i cant explain :sick: , but the scetch in the Codex Chaos Daemons looks awsome so i dont know what went wrong.

The Bloodletters are differant, good and i will use them, better than the old ones only due to greater flexability in converting them, personally i prefer them weilding axes :evil: .

The Flesh hound models just dont feel right to me, though they are much better than the old ones so its a step in the right direction.

Bloodcrushers are :rock: , just awsome, but would like to have seen a few differant posses as a squad or 8 could become bland.

Just wish they would make some plastic Horrors, too damn expensive to buy metal :( . Think ill have to use the idea off the ghouls as plague bearers, with alot of converting :D .

Well thats my opinion.