Questions?, Of Continents and Cities~

Yeah sorry if this is in the wrong section. *headdesk*

Anyway my unexplained absences from forums are always more common the farther the school year goes...and I'm working on a new Okage plot that involves time paradoxes. 'Nuff said 'till I can straighten stuff out.

So, once again sorry if I put this somewhere wrong...

I haven't played the game in a long while, though I plan on doing it soon. Did they ever say in the game what the continent is shaped like, or what it was even called? 0_o I think there's a "Capital City" that someone in Tenel mentions near the beginning of the game, but I could easily be wrong.

You see, I wanted to try and imagine what the Okage world was like back when Gohma and Hero Hopkins were still around--unless I got the names wrong. So I was searching for details wherever I could.

As far as I know It did not have a known name, but I did call the contenient incognitia...And capital city, I believe is the central city in which all things are passed as law. Funny thing is that its not a place you can visit which leads me to assume its a ruse created by belioune to make it seem more pluasible and less likely to be questioned, if it was establish from such and important sounding place.

As far as we know Gohma and Hopkins never really existed, but their story was implanted into the minds of the citizens by Bilouine. It could also be that the world was completely different since it was a different story for Marlene as well, no?

Ah okay, thanks. I'll have to think about this now. 0_o
Curse this great game and its confusing storyline elements! XD

I didn't know they weren't actually real...probably my brain being an idiot as usual and I'm not remembering everything in the game. Time for another playthrough I guess, heh.

On the contrary, I gathered that it was the actions of Hopkins which triggered the exile of Marlene (though that was likely an unintended consequence).

I think the Capital City was a cover for the World Library, the reports which the city officials gathered had to go somewhere.

I do remember picking up on the capital city/ library bit in the game, although I haven't played currently enough to remember specifics

Oh? Really? I thought Hopkins did have something to do with Marlene--as did Stan's whole claim of being "Gohma's incarnation" or some kind of crud. I assumed they were both real, since apparently James said Gohma almost destroyed half the world? Or was that a lie too?

Capital City/World Library are probably one and the same.

I was also considering how Stan got trapped, I don't remember well either. "Pollack's Bottle" is what they said Stan was within, but I dunno if Pollack was a person or just the bottle's name, or if Ari's father whom gave the vessel its term was wrong.

I do commend Toast for the unconventional theory about Hopkins and Gohma, but it is not very likely. The exact details may have been tweaked and misrepresented to cover up the inconsistencies that occur in a world run by a subjective system, but I think the general idea of Gohma making trouble and Hopkins defeating him is likely true.

To know the exact truth may be impossible, but I think we can find clues to the truth.

I totally agree, and this is me, searching for clues to the truth. *waves* XD
Thanks for the help so far...but since it's fan fiction I can have the liberty of making stuff up. =P Believable lies, hopefully.

Many fan-circles in Japan believe that Ari is a reincarnation of Hopkins. Also, the World Library workers talk about Hopkin's sword and the battle between Ghoma and Hopkin's. I don't think Beilouine could change the minds of the workers though, so I think they were real people.....~

Oh yah, Suz, while RPing, said that her character knew Pollack, who created the bottle to trap Stan. You could use something along those lines. Stan was trapped in the bottle by Hopkin's. He was released by Rosalyn, but re-trapped right after~

Dang plot-holes and mysteries....~

0_o Really? Now THAT'S interesting. I forgot Hopkins trapped him.

Pollack making the bottle makes sense, also.

Um. Huh...Ari as a reincarnation. Interesting.

Rosalyn was a victim to Stan three years before Ari I think. Was Stan even around during Gohma's "reign"?

Nah, since he's Ghoma's incaration, he would have been created after Ghoma's defeat~

I prefer to believe Boogie's take on this: The entire history of the game was implanted in people's minds by belioune, there was only the previous "game" of marlene's before this one, and another before that and etc.

Thats just my opinion though.

*slaps forehead* Of course Rosalyne. That was obvious. I'm so slow sometimes. XD

Entire planted histories are no fun to write. Hehe. But I'll be sure to take all of this into account.

Something tells me I'm going to regret messing with time paradoxes.

I'm not sure about "planted" histories, but it is true that history is misrepresented, it often happens in our world. Beiloune had an interest in hiding the inconvenient parts, but there was no way that he could cover up everything. After the fact, Hopkins is declared the Great Hero, though it was likely that Hopkins was a deviant.

Ari as the reincarnation of Hopkins, I'm somewhat doubtful. Ari and Hopkins strike me as two different kinds of deviants. Pollack definitely was a catalyst, I'm certain of that.

To put it very simply, I was going to have a scientific accident on Kisling's part toss Stan and Rosalyn into the past during Gohma's and Hopkin's time, if they actually exist. Let's say they did. XD

Pollack made a bottle to trap Stan. And Stan's a lot older than he looks. Now I have to straighten out exactly what point it was that he got captured. 0_o

It was said in the game when Stan was imprisoned.....but I can't remember....~

I think James provided some details when he was first introduced. Wait, no that's wrong, but there is a connection between: 1. His death as Gohma, 2. The process of his reincarnation, 3. The loss of his Evil King powers.

Oh yeah basically, my theory was that Pollack fashioned a bottle made specifically to contain Gohma, since they had doubt they could completely destroy him( becuase they were at this point well aware of the classification powers). And Hopkins being much like Ari, was not a insanely powerful skilled warrior. So he mostly distracted Gohma in combat allowing Pollack to initated the sealing process/spell.

Well Its one thing to say World Library than Capital city. Course we know the stuff REALLY came from there, but when its claimed to be from "capital city, we know that more of a half lie.

I think Stan just willingly went back in to the bottle, dispite him being the recarnation of Gohma, he isn't exactly like him, and could not bear causing someone to commit suicide just to be free from him.

Did the say whay Gohma looked like? Or since Stan was him, did he look like Stan? 0_O

I really like the Hopkins/Pollack theory, Suzie. *bows to your epicness*

Yeah Rosalyn commiting suicide to "free herself" was probably past Stan's point of stubborn pride. Especially since it'd probably kill him too. XD