New Restriction List Speculation, Speculate and guess new restriction list

[DR.Brainy]

With the new restriction list update date becoming more near (1st of march if no accident), I feel that we should start to prepare early for it. One way is to speculate what cards will be restricted, adjusted in terms of restriction and banned. This thread is for all members to post about what they feel will be the new updates in the upcoming restriction list and why. It is hope that through this thread that we will be able to understand whatever restriction or banning that konami adopt. It is hope that no flame wars or unnecessary posting will be posted in here. Offenders will take all responsibilities themselves. In addition, whatever that is posted here is not to be taken as what konami says, just in case some users thought that what we are discussing is the actual new restriction list.Start posting about your speculation now.

This post has been edited by DR.Brainy on Feb 15 2005, 05:24 PM

[DR.Brainy]

My specualtion:
New restriction:
dimensional warior girl- No need to elaborate much on this. 1500 decent attack plus an almost advanatge giving or tide turning effect. Makes other theme deck or high level monster that konami is trying to proment recently looks dumb.

Adjusted restriction:
calling reinforcement- most likely restricted to one in my opinion due to the versatility of warrior monsters. An almost deck staple in all deck now.

Forced rotation- used in many decks in japan now as quoted from some friends who frequent japanese forum. Could be abused to an high extent of near match winning.


Banned card:
sealing swords of light- an almost time stalling card available to all deck now. Saw an increased number of users due to the restriction of cyclone in the previous restriction list. Can be abused to limit with multiple copies of saint magician and Magician of Black chaos.

Magical Scientist- Needless to say, this extremely versatile card is an almost 99.99% card included in all deck types now. Could be ban for the highly versatile usage and being one if the main component in most One-turn-kill deck.

Mirage of Nightmare- An already excellent card drawing effect in the previous restriction list. Enhanced in the last restriction list due to the restriction of cyclone. Banning it could end an era of imbalance card refreshing seen in many deck now.

6 sense- An already no-need-to-explain-cheese card. I predict this to be ban as i regard the previous restrictionlist inclusion of it as an restricted card was an set-up move to ban it.

Chaos Soldier- Highly abused card in many deck now. An almost match winning card. High attack and speed is almost unmatched in metagaming now.

Un-banned:
Holy Barrier-mirror force -The most effective card to prevent and turn the tide from mass monster crowding seen in many situation today. Could be unbanned for balancing game balance purpose.

Above is only my opininion. Konami and DMC are not represented by me.

[Klash]

Restriction :

-Reasoning and Monster Gate : both of theses are completely broken in some deck. true that it sill has a chance to give you what you don't need, it still a bit exaggerated that you can have a free monster like this.
Also, nowadays, losing cards from the deck doesn't annoy as much as before (before ban, ban list 1 and 2)

-Reinforcement of the Army : you can bring any warrior you like... and since you have a huge number of various styles, it's insane (destroying? exiled and D girl. discard? zaloog. a huge strike? blade knight. a face down card? mystic swordsman LV2, etc etc)

-Manticore of Darkness : it's really insane to see how this card can give you an easy way to have the "unlimited draw" combo, which gives you the instant win with Exodia...

-Stalling Cards (Gravity/Area B/Peace) : stalling cards are getting a bit too much advantages, just like warriors... basically, without a lot of M/T destroying power, they aren't really worried of getting attacked when there are at lest 2 of these : one in the hand, the other active on the field...
Unless you can use 3 cyclonses, i think that restrict thoses cards to 2 are enough to get a better balance...

Bans :

-Magic Scientist : too much combos... After each set, there are more cards that can be combined with that crazy thing... and aslo, it became, as you all know, the almighty and deadly tool for a silly First Turn Kill

-Ring Of Destruction : frankly, that card is a bit toom much : ca destroy any monster you like, dealing sometimes a silly amount of damage, which can barrely wipe out your oppenent after 1 single attack without letting a chance (except book of moon)

-6th Sense : 1 card for a possibility of 6... its terribly broken... losing at most 4 cards from the deck isn't a big deal, and having 5 or 6 is totally huge and let almost the instant win...


Unbans :
-Holy Barrier : Mirror Force : why that card has been banned but not D ring?
i know mirror force can wipe out a huge army, but since that card still a bit too weak by needing a timing, it's not a huge probleme in fact...
also, that card can balance the game by offering a good way to block a massive attack without being a overpowered card...

-graceful charity : a nice drawing card isn't that bad when you have to concider the drawback.
even if sometimes , discarding cards is an advantage, the metagame somewhat restrict the ways to abuse the discard (no more monster reborn, less chaos etc)

un restricts :
-Mystical Space Typhoon "cyclone) ===> 2
basically, there aren't much cards that can break against face down cards which is sometime really heavy....

[jess]

nows my turn

RESTRICTION

creature swap-->1

this card although irritating but also can defeat opp easily

kycoo-->1

without sangan and witch now,ppl put lots of big monster and this one really hurt not only choas deck,but other deck as well

bans:

pot of greed

well example like your opp use it in 1st turn and it was like 7 cards vs 5 cards,fair? and also it lets u get 2 XTra cards from nowhere

chaos soldier

even now CD is banned,this card is the next "almost unstoppable" and also abuse the effect mpre than CD

6th sense

need to explain?

painful choice

this one i don expect it to be unbanned last year,but dunno why .this card help MOBC and other deck too much,too much abuse

UNBANNED THESE!!

mirror force

after this card tio ban,everyone just rush like there was no such thing as "face up defend mode"

graceful charity

draw 3 cards and consider which 1 to take,not like POG ,even crap card also draw


imperial order

stop turtle deck,stop reverse world deck,stop 1 turn rush!!

[bladeknight89]

Here are my views,
Restricted Cards:

DWG:
Seen in most decks,either in chaos or warrior almost a deck staple now.

Lightning Vortex:
Without Rageiki,it is almost an imbalance card tht helps to turn the tide.

Forced Rotation:
Gives u a chance to trade a goat token for a bigger creature n WHACK!!!

Calling For Reinforcements:
Basically seen in all decks now....

Pheonix God Nepthys:
Almost an imbalanced card once its summoned to field.

Banned Cards:

Chaos Soldier:
Evil!!!! BANG BANG!!!

Pot of Greed:
With the upcoming Card of Sanctity(possible),could be banned to encourage ppl to use.

Magical Scientist:
Juz as Brainy says,its seen as a 99.9% need in all decks.

6th Sense:
Draw draw draw or Drop Drop Drop

MoBc:
Possible since it givs a card advantage once u summon it to the field.

Unbanned cards:

Mirror Force:
Used to make gameplay balance

Twin Demon:
Been long since its banned,could be unbannned?

Yatagarasu:
It could be back since CED is banned,Unable to do one turn kill.....

IR:
Since nowadays magic cards are completely in control,Konami might think of giving Magic cards a BOO........

[Xuanyang]

My speculations:

Restricted:

DDWL
Kills many theme decks, high level playbility will be raise with it's restriction.

Creature Swap
A rather powerful card with many combos, seen alot (maybe too much) of use since last restriction.

Mirror Force
Creature swarming is becoming more rampant, it might be a good choice to bring it back.

Phoenix God of Nepthys
Easy to summon, hard to get rid of, and mass removal, would be contradicting the previous restrictions if not restricted.




Semi-Restricted:

None




Banned:

Black Luster Soldier - Envoy of the Beginning
One of the most powerful monsters in the games, should be highly considered.

Sixth Sense
One of the most powerful drawing cards in the game, will give too much of an advantage if used correctly.

Cyber Jar
Mass removal, refresh hand, if activated by controller on his turn, can prove very deadly.

Fibre Jar
Changes the game state immediately, in just one card (close to mass removal), and can give an advantage at many times.

Heavy Storm
The last of the four mass removal giants still allowed in play, allows an immediate gain of advantage over the foe.




Released from restrictions:

Cyclone
One for one is fine as long as there is no mass removal ruining the game.




I think the game should change into a one for one or two for one game, after they cleared all the mass removal the game should be less broken, and more deck types will actually see play.

This post has been edited by Xuanyang on Jan 23 2005, 03:02 PM

[horizon phoenix]

I'm thinking scapegoat could be restricted. An instant 4 creatures on the field that can combo with so many things is just wrong. Monster gate, cannon soldier, force rotate, use to disturb opponents(by attacking with them for fun)...

I also feel Contagious Virus should be banned. Themed decks stand no chance with this guy around.

CS and Scientist might be banned too, with so many people abusing them.

DWG might be banned/restricted because of the abuse.

Reasoning/Monster Gate might be resticted/semi restricted, beacuse of their ability to give you an almost free monster.

This post has been edited by horizon phoenix on Jan 23 2005, 03:55 PM

[real_cool]

i agree that reinforcement and dwg should be restricted....these 2 cards are often abuse by ppl nowadays....

[Kelvin31]

A lot of cards has already been mentioned by everyone. What I am about to say is just adding on.

In order to keep the game fresh, Konami will have to eliminate the Tier 1 competitive decks totally.

That means banning:

Chaos Soldier and/or Magician of Black Chaos
- No more Chaos deck (but might result in Warrior deck being the next Tier 1, so that is where restricting the 3-in-every-deck D-Warrior Girl and 'toolbox searcher' Call Reinforcements come in).

Magical Scientist
- No more Catapult Burn and scientist abuse (Monster Gate, etc). And no more being seen in every deck for being the swiss army knife of DM.

After that, everyone will try to make new competitive decks. Hurray for a more interesting metagame.

This post has been edited by Kelvin31 on Jan 23 2005, 10:32 PM

[lightbinder]

Hope that these will get ban

Scientist
Sixth sense

Restricted

Calling Reinforcement
Last will (If scientist is not ban)
Creature swap

Unban cards

mirror force
IR
Graceful Charity (Here if pot of greed is banned)

[horizon phoenix]

If Scientist isn't banned, I hope that Will/Monster Gate/Resoning will at least be restricted/semi restricted.

Oh ya, and I also hope to see Book of Life semi restricted/restricted. Free recursion these days=too good.

Forceful sentry might also be banned. Free hand d, makes opponent get worse draws due to the deck +1.

[Hikaru]

just ban 6th sense and bring peace to the middle earth...

[bahamut84]

Please ban sixth sense + scientist + chaos soldier. Peace.

[Xuanyang]

I think more than half of the playing community wanted Sixth Sense banned since forever. I really really hope it's gonna be gone this time.

[Destiny]

i was kinda hoping for sixth sense n chaos soldier to be banned n yatakarasu to be unbanned... but then i think yata chan will be remained in the ban list forever...

[DamnPissedWithLogin]

...

if lidat might as well as ban all the cards.

The point of the game is to see how you can use your cards to win...

CED around say CED cheap
Yata around all say Yata cheese
Now say CS too fast and over powerful
Say scientist one turn too much...
Say sixth sense unbalance...
Pot of Greed free...
DWG too strong...

Win liao lor...

I wonder what type of restriction list will really satisfy everyone?
Since no matter what they restrict or ban, its still the same for everyone.
Everyone follows it so why bother say or determine what is cheap?
And may I ask what deck is not cheap?

Nah, just a piece of my mind.
Cause it is indeed funny to see all these comments on restriction list topic everytime.
Its nothing wrong of you guys to think and hope for things that way, so I guess its nothing wrong of me to wonder aloud about it too.
hehe
If CS, MoBC, Scientist banned, next time round everyone will say Manticore, Jinzo and Vamp Lord should ban, Blade Knight, DWG, should Restrict. It just goes on...
hehehe

[_Destroyer_from_Chaos_]

well... i feel dat those super unbalanced cards lik the 4 mass removal... quite scary... wun come back til everyone balances their deck... instead of all chaos deck or warrior n stuff lidat... mabie den... the stone aged shields n sword may come back... lol... possibly only den wil raigeki n gang be back... all i noe is... scientist is a 95% bye bye... get ready to keep ya fusion piles...possibly tribe infectin virus oso wil be gone... aint they too staple??im secretly wishin for ced to come back.., cos i lik it v much... hate cs... but i noe im buildin sandcastles.. mabie witch n sangan mabie back? pot of greed may go away... y would mirror force come back?? i pray jinzo wun be banned... it simply is our guardian...

all in all... wad i feel is...

new restriction..

cyclone 2
reinforcements 1
book of life 2 (possibly 1)
DWG 1
sangan n witch 1each
graceful charity 1
genocide 1

ban

forceful sentry
pot
sixth sense
scientist]
tribe

[Si|entStaR]

I personally feels that they won't restrict Dimension Warrior Girl juding from the spoiler of the new set...

For me I suspect all this card w ill be banned...

1.Magical Scientist (99% Possiblity Of Banning)

Due to the fact that in one of the recent tourney (in Japan) was won by someone using "Turtle Burn Deck", and he won with a 1st ^^ So I guess Konami by now should notice the power of "Turtle Burn" by now...

2.Chaos Soldier (40% Possiblity of Banning)

Not suprising haha, I feel that he is the last hope for Chaos Deck though? Well if you don't draw him Chaos Deck will be meaniless isn't it ? But some people can always draw "Chaos Soldier" for some odd reason lol...
Last time Chaos Deck was so common due to the fact that there is "Chaos Emperor Dragon" and "Chaos Soldier" so there are a higher possiblity of drawing either of them...Haha after talking so much I suspect Konami won't ban "Chaos Soldier" quite a long chance, since in japan people are playing different deck types and "Chaos Deck" are seldom seen o_O

3.Magician of Black Chaos (20% Possiblity of Banning)

Last hope for Magician Deck, I don't think they will ban this card simply this card depend more on luck than anything lol, well obvious sacrificing 2 creature is too hard unless u are running a magician deck... ^^


Restriction to 1!!!

1.Creature Swap (70% Possiblity of Restricting to 1)

Without effective creature removal now, "Creature Swap" seems to be a very good and effective monster destruction and better yet it net you a free big , mean monster instead of killing it.I do believe Konami notice that by now.


Other Possible Restriction List
1.Monster Gate (Read Magical Scientist)
2.Reasoning (Read Magical Scientist)


This cards are pointed out by people but I don't suspect they will restrict/ban them...

1.Dimension Warrior Girl

For some obvious reason, if you read t he current spoiler for the next set, they notice the power of DWG but they don't intend to ban it , since obviously the 1800 Warrior will shed "D.D Assilant" and "DWG" to pieces (Well there is people who put 3 DWG and 1 D.D ASsilant) , so they intend to print new cards to counter "DWG" instead of restricting it.

2.Sixth Sense

Yes I know 5/6 , HIT and its a Good Game! But Konami doesn't think that way LOL the chances are like 1/3% of hitting a 5/6 DAMN IT , I DON'T KNOW HOW THEY MANAGE TO DRAW 5 OR 6 ITS a Miracle that they break the One-Third Ratio LOL!

3.Calling Reinforcement

Okay I know everyone playing 2x Reinforcement etc, but then thats because people in Singapore is copying each other DUH! LOL! You don't really see x2 Reinforcement in every deck in Japan hahahaha ...^^



Forever Banned Cards...
1.Holy Barrier Mirror Force

Haha in actual fact I hope they unban this too, but this card leaves a mental scar with "Tidal Wave" and "Holy Barrier Mirror Force" you will have a hard time deciding on if you wants to summon more monster this turn.At least if your opponent "Activiate Tidal Wave" when he have monster on field its still not that bad, but if it was a "HOly Barrier Mirror Force" I am afraid that all the monster on your field will be gone, while his monster is still intact

2.Black Hole/Thunderbolt

Obvious~

3.Imperial Rebellion

Haha negate all magic, and it is a perment trap ^^ , I don't think Konami will unban this haha

4.Yata-Garasu

Peck-Peck-Peck ... ~~~ haha yup some people with shred luck can even pull off a confiscation (opponent whole hand magic) after that summon Yata-Garasu == WIN!
Well of course example above is quite extreme, good thing of Yata-Garasu is that it stops all combo deck, but then that not what Konami intended ^^ And it also start a "Infinity-Loop" since you can't draw so...

[PPlawin]

Nobody's talking about limiations on Reversal of death and Lightning Vortex ??

They should be at least semi restricted don't you think?

[Hikaru]

don't think you'll play 3 vortex even though it's not semi-restricted.
it's not THAT strong~

This post has been edited by Hikaru on Feb 3 2005, 01:11 AM