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Flamey
Posted: Jun 20 2005, 06:13 PM


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Just wondering, where are you all from????!
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crackaboy
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 07:01 PM


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QUOTE (Flamey @ Jun 20 2005, 06:13 PM)

I hope not USA!!!1 wink.gif

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Inspector
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 09:03 PM


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QUOTE (Lord Wankus @ Jun 25 2005, 02:21 PM)
Ol' Dubya.

Maybe this is a good place to ask: why is he worse than Clin-ton to non-Americans? Simply because he doesn't listen to your governments as closely? Because he doesn't sacrifice American interests to international opinions as much as others?

Don't bother trying to school me in his foibles; I'm not a fan.


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bathory
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 09:54 PM


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Because Clinton wasn't an arrogant fascist hellbent on destroying any culture even remotely different from his own.
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New Tolerance
Posted: Jun 25 2005, 11:06 PM


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Because Clinton wasn't an arrogant fascist hellbent on destroying any culture even remotely different from his own.


Problem, president B. should try to secularize the mid-east (ie destroy their irrationalist culture, unforunately this doesn't seem to be his intention).
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Mistress Moon
Posted: Jun 26 2005, 01:00 AM


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QUOTE (bathory @ Jun 25 2005, 09:54 PM)
Because Clinton wasn't an arrogant fascist hellbent on destroying any culture even remotely different from his own.

"Kill the infidel."
That's a lovely philosophy.
I think everyone should embrace it.
Who's the arrogant fascist again?
Saddam Hussein, that's who.


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Inspector
Posted: Jun 26 2005, 05:28 AM


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QUOTE (bathory @ Jun 25 2005, 03:54 PM)
Because Clinton wasn't an arrogant fascist hellbent on destroying any culture even remotely different from his own.

Do you honestly think that's what he is? I mean, seriously no-fooling? You BELIEVE that?

Because the only sense in which Bush is IMO a fascist is that he wants to extend the power of the state in SOME areas, but Clinton was the same way for the most part.

As for "destroying any culture," are you F***ing serious? He totally let Iraq have a Islamist constitution, which he shouldn't have IMO. Do you just see any attempt to actually defend the USA as automatically "imperialist" or what? Where is reality in your world?!? blink.gif unsure.gif sad.gif


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Lord Wankus
Posted: Jun 27 2005, 08:35 AM


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QUOTE (Inspector @ Jun 25 2005, 09:03 PM)
Maybe this is a good place to ask: why is he worse than Clin-ton to non-Americans? Simply because he doesn't listen to your governments as closely? Because he doesn't sacrifice American interests to international opinions as much as others?

Don't bother trying to school me in his foibles; I'm not a fan.

The fact that he started a war without the permission of the UN. I support the fact that they removed Saddam Hussein, but I dislike the fact that they didn't listen to the UN.


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Westbound
Posted: Jun 27 2005, 02:01 PM


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The fact that he started a war without the permission of the UN. I support the fact that they removed Saddam Hussein, but I dislike the fact that they didn't listen to the UN.


Why do you think that? Why on EARTH should a government listen and obey people who are not citizens of that country? Is America a sovereign nation? Maybe you'll remember the answer at her 229th birthday in a week. GOD LOVES AMERICA!


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Mistress Moon
Posted: Jun 27 2005, 02:12 PM


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QUOTE (Lord Wankus @ Jun 27 2005, 08:35 AM)
The fact that he started a war without the permission of the UN. I support the fact that they removed Saddam Hussein, but I dislike the fact that they didn't listen to the UN.

"We have no time to discuss this in committee."
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The reasonable man does not make choices based upon the agreement of everybody, he makes choices based upon the facts that are present.

If the UN wanted everyone to jump off of the Empire State building, would you comply with their wishes?



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Inspector
Posted: Jun 27 2005, 04:01 PM


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QUOTE (Lord Wankus @ Jun 27 2005, 02:35 AM)
The fact that he started a war without the permission of the UN. I support the fact that they removed Saddam Hussein, but I dislike the fact that they didn't listen to the UN.

Okay, but does that make him a fascist? And like the others said, what's with the assumption that the UN is worth listening to? They put Syria on the human rights council. Or was it Lybia? The point is they put a foul rights-violating dictatorship there.


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