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Galileo, Oil, and Environmentalism, Some good reads
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Edward Cline's Galileo and Oil is a good read. I don't have anything to add right now, just a side note that this is very much what I've been saying for a while now and it's what Objectivists have been saying about the Greens for decades and if you haven't done so already then it would be really swell if you started realizing that the Greens are anti-man, pathological liars, have hijacked science, and want to kill oil, kill the car, all technology, civilization in general, and - really when you get right down to it - all of mankind. To give them even the slightest quarter or benefit of the doubt or "well maybe they have a point about..." at this point is tantamount to looking for merit in the "grievances" of the Nazis in 1942. The globe isn't warming. There isn't any warming caused by mankind. And there certainly isn't any catastrophic warming being caused by mankind. Oil is not running out. And all attempts to "do something" about these imaginary problems are attacks aimed directly at crippling and ultimately destroying civilization, whether their advocates realize it or not. Just say no to environmentalists and their nonsense. All of them and all of their nonsense. Celebrate CBD or its equivalent. However you want to do it; just give the freaks no more quarter. They say "the debate is over?" Well, indeed it is: they've long since exceeded the point where their nonsense deserves any consideration whatsoever. Debate or convince those mislead by mainstream Green Propaganda Juggernaut as calmly and thoughtfully as you need to, but don't give the impression for even a second that you think environmentalism (like its advocates) is anything other than ludicrous, despicable, garbage. Because this is war, people. -Inspector (I guess I did have something to add, after all)
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Say, speaking of the Green Shirts, does anyone else live in a city where activists swarm the streets pushing leaflets in your face whilst you're trying to get a sandwich during lunch asking you if you have "sixty seconds for the environment?" or if you're a "fellow Environmentalist?"
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K, I have not run into that here in the "Inland Empire" (San Bernardino and Riverside counties) of CA. Although this is something like the fourth fastest growing population center in America, it is too spread out and suburban to make it worthwhile for street activism. There is no place with sufficient concentration of people, other than maybe the freeways -- where it's kind of hard to get signatures or donations.
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| QUOTE (Kriegsgefahrzustand @ Jul 2 2008, 06:20 PM) | | Say, speaking of the Green Shirts, does anyone else live in a city where activists swarm the streets pushing leaflets in your face whilst you're trying to get a sandwich during lunch asking you if you have "sixty seconds for the environment?" or if you're a "fellow Environmentalist?" |
We get those types all the time at ASU. They're always armed with a clipboard with a petition on it and a stack of brochures. Out of morbid curiosity I decided to check one of them out (sometimes I got really *really* bored during my 2 hour lunch break last semester). I presume they all have the same spiel because they're all smelly hippies (usually complete with nasty dreadlocks) who dress similarly and carry the same materials. The petition is directed at the Arizona governor requesting funding for solar energy research and subsidies for those who purchase such equipment (and other such nonsense). They also ask for people to sponsor their company by pledging them a monthly contribution -- something like $10 to $40 a month. I think my smelly hippie was offended when I laughed at that request.
What's interesting about their particular petition is that the government subsidies that they're so desperate for may not even be necessary to get people to start adopting solar energy here. About a year ago, I read about a company that has developed a technique for reducing the cost and energy required to produce photo voltaic solar panels by half or more. Another couple of companies are working on making ultra-efficient lithium ion rechargeable batteries that would also significantly reduce the cost of a personal solar electric system (or wind energy, etc). Both technological developments have been proven successful and all companies involved are now working out how to put them into mass production (I'm sorry I don't have links -- I don't have time to search for them just yet). Assuming that they are successful at this, it will likely become economically advantageous to begin installing many more solar photo voltaic systems (I'm assuming that we'll also start seeing many more public utilities start installing solar panel arrays to generate electricity and perhaps reduce their costs).
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| QUOTE (Kriegsgefahrzustand @ Jul 3 2008, 01:20 AM) | | Say, speaking of the Green Shirts, does anyone else live in a city where activists swarm the streets pushing leaflets in your face whilst you're trying to get a sandwich during lunch asking you if you have "sixty seconds for the environment?" or if you're a "fellow Environmentalist?" |
No, it is more built into the system at a higher level. There is no need for street protesters.
The matter is being...dealt with as it is.
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