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 Dramatic Irony, The Unfolding of Environmentalism
Inspector
Posted: Aug 13 2007, 10:15 AM


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Answers.com defines dramatic irony as follows:

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dramatic irony
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The dramatic effect achieved by leading an audience to understand an incongruity between a situation and the accompanying speeches, while the characters in the play remain unaware of the incongruity.

For an example of this concept, see here:

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Walking does more than driving to cause global warming, a leading environmentalist has calculated.

Food production is now so energy-intensive that more carbon is emitted providing a person with enough calories to walk to the shops than a car would emit over the same distance. The climate could benefit if people avoided exercise, ate less and became couch potatoes…

“We need to become accustomed to the idea that our food production systems are equally damaging. As the man from Ryanair says, cows generate more emissions than aircraft. Unfortunately, perhaps, he is right. Of course, this doesn’t mean we should always choose to use air or car travel instead of walking. It means we need urgently to work out how to reduce the greenhouse gas intensity of our foodstuffs.”

Simply cutting out beef, or even meat, however, would be too modest a change. The food industry is estimated to be responsible for a sixth of an individual’s carbon emissions, and Britain may be the worst culprit...

The ideal diet would consist of cereals and pulses. “This is a route which virtually nobody, apart from a vegan, is going to follow,” Mr Goodall said.


The incongruity, of course, is that it is news to these people that environmentalism’s ultimate goal is to dismantle civilization and leave man to exist in Neolithic poverty, if at all. It’s like a train wreck in slow motion, to see them puzzle out the logical conclusions of the commands that they dare not examine.

First they demand we give up cars. Then they do the math and realize that we should actually give up cheeseburgers. Then it's on to a diet of a loose, flavorless (what with all the shipping for exotic spice), vegetable sludge. The inevitable conclusion is that we should stop eating altogether. I'm just amazed that they walked right up to that precipice and are now scratching their heads at the arrows directing them to leap off.

The thing that really gets me is how earnest they are about it – they actually believe that they can comply with the dictates of the green beast and yet still retain a functional civilization. They are giving up that civilization, piece by piece, because no matter how much they refuse to believe it, that is the core premise of environmentalism. And core premises will play out unless and until they are questioned and reversed. No amount of well-wishing can change that.

I watch, with a certain amount of fascinated horror, as the actors play out their prescribed roles, stumbling blindly into environmentalism’s grim designs. “Fascinated,” because it so sharply illustrates the truth of the principles in play – the ones I’ve been warning about. And “horror,” because it is real and it is happening.

To us.

-Inspector


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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 06:07 PM


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I watched a show on Discovery that featured some farmers who've found out a potential way to eliminate a large portion of the methane "emissions" (production) from cattle. Basically they immunize the animals' against the thingy that is responsible for the methane. This also has the good side effect of causing the spare energy left over from what would become methane, to go to added meat or wool.

This may be besides the point but the reason I bring it up is that as a social barometer, if you were to bring this fact up to environmentalists, they would disregard it. They're not looking for solutions for mankind but solutions against it.
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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 08:28 PM


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This may be besides the point [...]


Not at all beside the point, that is the point.

It sounds a bit like the cows are actually sick, and that by curing them of the problem you actually make them more "producitve". The greens would rightly identify this as good old fashioned capitalism, and thus brush it aside.

When you try to meet your detroyer halfway, they will have nothing but contempt for you. How could they feel any differently about someone willing to kneel before them.


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Posted: Aug 13 2007, 10:02 PM


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Yes, what Kriegsgefahrzustand said.


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Posted: Aug 14 2007, 05:06 AM


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QUOTE (Kriegsgefahrzustand @ Aug 13 2007, 08:28 PM)

When you try to meet your detroyer halfway, they will have nothing but contempt for you.  How could they feel any differently about someone willing to kneel before them.

Great comment and I love the formulation. There is some really good stuff at this board.
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Posted: Aug 14 2007, 06:09 AM


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QUOTE (Kriegsgefahrzustand @ Aug 13 2007, 08:28 PM)


When you try to meet your detroyer halfway, they will have nothing but contempt for you. How could they feel any differently about someone willing to kneel before them.

I'm with Madmax, that's a great quote. Reminds me of Nietzsche.
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Inspector
Posted: Aug 14 2007, 10:52 AM


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Take heed, Kriegsgefahrzustand, your talents are noticed.

Stuff like that just comes out of him all the time. I encourage him to write, so that it gets recorded instead of lost.


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Posted: Aug 14 2007, 02:28 PM


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I encourage him to write, so that it gets recorded instead of lost.


If only someone would pay me. That's the kind of encouragment you can take to the bank. wink.gif


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-Cato the Elder

"Mon centre cede, ma droite recule, situation excellente, j'attaque!"
-Ferdinand Foch, 8 September 1914

"Asymmetry works both ways. There is nothing quite as asymmetric as a tank driving over an infantryman. "
-Helmoed-Roemer Heitman JDW Correspondent
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