Trey Givens and I exchanged some comments over at Noodlefood on one of Greg’s posts
on the evil and dishonest sleaze that is environmentalism.
In response, he posted up
on his blog
I was going to post a quick comment, but it turned into a full-fledged blog post, so I’m just going to post up here and give him a link.
Without further ado:
Hey, Trey, thanks for the mention.
I like your characterization of my position. ("Dude hates those sons of bitches and with good reason it would seem.") It really fits. <grin>
All I can say is, do some digging at my blog (yes, it is a blog; see the FAQ
for details). The entire environmentalist movement is a gigantic fraud. They've been systematically lying to us for years and, when you've seen the evidence that I have, it is a very reasonable conclusion to dismiss them out of hand as liars.
They lied about DDT
. They lied about many of the major "toxic spill" scares (including Erin Brockovich
; turns out the evidence didn't support the claims of that lawsuit). They lied about nuclear power
and three mile island. They lie about ethanol
, genetically modified foods
, they lie about
, they lie about the Amazon rainforest, they lied about “resource depletion,” they lied about “overpopulation
,” they lied about recycling
, they lied about Alar, and of course they lie about Global Warming.
They lie repeatedly, they lie consistently, and they lie on principle
. (see Ayn Rand and Peter Schwartz for the philosophical reason for this) There hasn't been a single environmental "cause" that I know of where they *haven't* lied. After a certain point, you'll realize that they are Not To Be Listened To - in the same way and for the same reason that Evangelicals are properly ignored.
No, the claim that "man is causing the earth to warm" is not, by itself, invalid in the way that claims of the Flying Spaghetti Monster are. But suppose that an FSM advocate told you that he had located “scientific” proof that "the universe was created 4000 years ago?" (or whatever the exact biblical number is) That isn't, itself, a claim to magic (as you nicely put it), although it is a wild claim. But wouldn't you feel comfortable ignoring his claim unless he went very far out of his way to prove to you that not only does he not believe in the FSM, but also that he has sound data to back his claim?
Or what about a claim, as I put it earlier, by Mengele, that "Jews cause cancer?" That isn't a magical claim. But wouldn't you dismiss it? Once you see the true depth of the Environmentalist evil and lies, you will know just how apt that comparison is.
I try to put up as much as I can about it, and of course one of the best places to start is aynrand.org’s page on environmentalism
I appreciate the distinction between an actual environmentalist ideologue ("Deep Green") and someone who does not hate man but is merely acting as a mouthpiece for those who do. No, many scientists acting on Green premises are not misanthropes - but some or many of the assumptions that they make *are* in fact premises created by those misanthropes.
I believe Stalin used the term "useful idiot."
And, heck, you can even look at it like this: there is a distinction between a "sunday Christian" and a fundamentalist evangelical, and perhaps for now the former outnumber the latter, but does that make it justified to declare *Christianity* is a benevolent, or non-evil movement/ideology? Of course not!
Certainly I could label an *individual* Christian as harmless or well-meaning, if he were mostly committed to reason, just as you could label an *individual* with some degree of environmentalism as well-intentioned. But both movements, philosophically, are certainly anti-man and anti-life-on-earth.
While the label “Deep Green” has its uses, I would be careful with throwing it around. It could be construed to imply that environmentalism as a whole is “okay,” but a few “extremists” (Deep Greens) are "perverting" it (*cough*religionofpeace*cough*). Nothing could be farther from the truth: environmentalism is rotten to the core
…and with the environmentalists now declaring jihad
on “deniers,” I think you’ll find the comparison to religion is more than appropriate.