Title: When Will The 2000's Decade Start/end?
Description: Some thoughts on 2005 pop culture.
Blind Spot - June 25, 2005 12:08 PM (GMT)
I'd say pop culture generally froze around 2001, but 1997 is where you can trace the current stuff back to. Not that everything that was popular in '97 is still super-cool today, but almost all of it is generally liked/accepted. You could listen to a Third Eye Blind song in public, and while people may not be as crazy for it now, they probably wouldn't laugh at it either, if that makes sense.
Sure, there's alot of minute differences for the 2000's, most notably 9/11 on the political side, and improved technology, such as Ipods and cameraphones. Boy bands have pretty much faded away or gone solo. Jerry Springer-type talk shows have given way to reality TV and such. However, 2005 still feels like a worn out late '90s, if you know what I mean?
LonePineKath - June 27, 2005 07:18 PM (GMT)
Hmm. That's given me something to think about.
I'm not so sure that pop culture has slowed down, it's just easier to spot when you're further away from it. For example, in the eighties I couldn't have defined the style for you - I thought the eighties were 'normal' and that all the other decades were weird! When I was in the eighties I also thought the music wasn't as good as previous decades, now I think eighties music is great!
Nineties style is emerging as we move away now - 'nice' boys, curtain hair an baggy tousers.
The first new milennium decade has a few crazes that people will always say "that's so noughties" about.
Scoubidou jewellery, reality TV, makeover TV, mobile/cell phones (as the 'digital watch' was to the eighties) & mobile/cell phone ringtones, Blue Cow, long sleeved/short sleeved tops in one (IE it looks like you're wearing two tops), clothes that look dirty when they're new (like ripped jeans in the eighties!), laminate flooring, pink/blue hair, straight hair (the opposite of eighties hair!).
All these things will look really funny to the next generation in the next decade!
Blind Spot - July 11, 2005 12:24 AM (GMT)
^ Forgot to respond to this earlier, but I think the UK definitely beats the USA in things like that (you guys are lucky - you got the Beatles too!). :)
Yeah, I can almost guarantee a kid in 2015 will think reality TV and 50 Cent was stupid and campy, LOL! Still, I don't think things are as distinct and vibrant as they used to be (i.e. the '70s were already starting to be uncool by 1979, from all I know).
Most of the '90s does feel a bit old-school, but people don't backlash it. That era is only becoming less cool by virtue of it getting further away, so less people remember it. Whereas in the 90s, the 80s were deemed uncool because of what they WERE.
The whole idealogy of the Grunge era seemed to try and be as "un-80s" as possible, especially in the music and fashion. Technology was still 80s-like (tape players and VCR's were still the big thing, and it was mostly pre-Internet) but the perception of what was cool, and the overall attitude and mindset was alot closer to the present.
My prediction is the 00s will drag along with this same late 90s style, then around 2009-2010 we will see pop culture change into something noticeably different from what we have been living in since 1997.
LonePineKath - July 11, 2005 08:00 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Blind Spot @ Jul 10 2005, 07:24 PM) |
Stuff from then is only becoming less cool by virtue of it getting further away (so less people remember it), but in the 90s, the 80s were deemed uncool because of what they WERE.
^ The whole idealogy of the Grunge generation was to be as "un-80s" as possible, especially in the music and fashion. Technology was still 80s-ish (tape players and VCRs were still reigning supreme) as were lifestyles, but the 80s themselves were far from cool. |
Where've you been, Spotty? We've missed you :)
I agree totally with that statement. In the 90's, the eighties were seen as drudgy and grey. People shunned anything eithties and laughed at the fashions.
Now, you can actually buy eighties style clothes (admittedly toned down a bit) in the shops again! Everyone thinks it's cool again! :rolleyes:
It's a funny old world....
deloreancrazy - September 8, 2005 11:44 PM (GMT)
The Millenium isn't really a decade in my opinion, more of a patische of the 90's with the occasional retro 80's and 70's coming through.
We've had "Make Luv" by Room 5, a remix 1983's of "Get Down Saturday Night", and even odder, "Saturday" which is the same song yet again! Elton John's having his songs redone from the late 70's as well.
Miami Vice, Dukes of Hazzard and a huge amount of shows are being remade into films for the audience, Quantum Leap should be made sometime soon as well!
Old hawaiian shorts are being brought back in, and pink is now the in colour? *cringes*
Bring on 2011 and the start of the 10's please!
I plan personally to wear the same kind of clothes (with leather trenchcoat) for the next 20 years and I don't think anyone will ever notice! lol
Makes me laugh, you watch Doctor Who and wherever he goes, no-one ever comments what he's wearing! I plan to do that with a character in one of my novels, he never changes his clothes despite the year because he realises that a: no-one realises, or b: no-one cares!
Anyway, apart from the songs and fashion, its been an alright decade, but the tradegies we've had, September 11th, Iraq, London and Madrid bombings, Tsunami, Katrina means its been a very troubling time to live. :(
needles1987 - August 1, 2007 04:59 AM (GMT)
I hope the 2000's decade ends soon. <_<
bttf44 - August 1, 2007 05:15 AM (GMT)
Rock and roll does seem to be making somewhat of a revival. It seems like a majority of the people who are active in the BTTF fandom are teens or young adults, who would generally be able to have an all-around appreciation for the 1980s. I think there are a lot o teens rebelling against the kind of the music that they're expected to like. BTW, just what are teens expected to listen to now. I was quite a bit out of touch when I suggested that people of Haven Brown's generation were expected to listen to Britney Spears.
timecircuits - December 7, 2007 09:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bttf44 @ Aug 1 2007, 05:15 AM) |
| BTW, just what are teens expected to listen to now. |
It really depends on what click you fit into. I may not be a teen anymore but I am friends with some who are, one is a bonefied EMO and listens to heavey rock and metal, as I do, and generally speaking do not make it into the mainsteam. The others are more mainstream and listen to chart music, sappy pop songs by the likes of Girls Aloud, Take That and Alicia Keys to name but 3, all of those are in the UK top 10.
needles1987 - August 22, 2009 04:38 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (bttf44 @ Aug 1 2007, 12:15 AM) |
| Rock and roll does seem to be making somewhat of a revival. It seems like a majority of the people who are active in the BTTF fandom are teens or young adults, who would generally be able to have an all-around appreciation for the 1980s. I think there are a lot o teens rebelling against the kind of the music that they're expected to like. BTW, just what are teens expected to listen to now. I was quite a bit out of touch when I suggested that people of Haven Brown's generation were expected to listen to Britney Spears. |
What do you mean by a revival?
bttf44 - August 22, 2009 06:19 PM (GMT)
I mean, fighting back against rap and pop. More and more teens do seem to be turning towards rock, as opposed to the other two genres.
bttf44 - September 2, 2009 05:12 AM (GMT)
On the other hand, though, you have book series like Harry Potter and His Darkest Materials that are being held in high regard. Even though music, movies, and TV may currently be in a slump - I don't think the same can really be said of books. Granted, I'm not a Harry Potter fan - but you have to give credit where it's due.
bttf44 - September 4, 2009 02:41 AM (GMT)
I do wonder if, some twenty or thirty years down the road, people will be talking about how much things were nicer during the years 2000 to 2009. I wouldn't doubt it, really. I mean, that's kind of the funny thing about nostalgia. The '60s, the '70s, the '80s, and the '90s all certainly had their share of problems - when you really think about it.
I think, if I was to go back in time, the internet would probably be the one thing I'd miss most about the present.
It certainly would be nice to see rock music live on, though.
EmmettMcFly55 - September 12, 2009 11:41 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (needles1987 @ Aug 1 2007, 06:59 AM) |
| I hope the 2000's decade ends soon. <_< |
Just be patient until December 31st, 2010.
needles1987 - September 12, 2009 03:51 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (EmmettMcFly55 @ Sep 12 2009, 06:41 AM) |
| QUOTE (needles1987 @ Aug 1 2007, 06:59 AM) | | I hope the 2000's decade ends soon. <_< |
Just be patient until December 31st, 2010.
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I doubt it will end in 2010. The 60s didn't end until 1973. The 70s ended around 1982.
bttf44 - September 17, 2009 09:23 PM (GMT)
Perhaps, we should be thinking a little more positively. I haven't been listening to a lot of modern music, lately - but I know the music of this decade isn't all The Jonas Brothers, Miley Cyrus, and gangsta rap.
Here are some rock bands of this decade that have been highly lauded:
Wolfmother
The White Stripes/The Raconteurs
Audioslave
Jet
Muse
There are plenty others, I'm sure - but these are what I can come up with, at the top of my head. I think much of what you hear on active rock stations is pretty decent. Active rock stations are radio stations that combine classic rock with newer rock, which seem to be quite popular. I'm sure they're also excellent for bridging the generation gap, a little.
bttf44 - November 3, 2009 07:10 AM (GMT)
As hard as it is to believe, this decade is finally just about done (in the most literal sense, that is). It almost seems like yesterday that the whole Y2K scare was going on, although I guess the younger ones here wouldn't remember it as well.
Right now, we tend to remember the '90s for the grunge - and bands like Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Soundgarden, Stone Temple Pilots, and Alice In Chains are some of the most notable bands from that decade. As for Boys II Men and All 4 One, not so much.
I do wonder what bands this decade will be known for. I guess we'll wait and see.
I'm wondering if Audioslave really counts as a new band from this decade - since it's comprised of three members of Soundgarden, and one from Rage Against the Machine. Both of those bands were quite big in the '90s.
BTW, it's hard to believe that this topic was started over four years ago. Of course, that was before I joined.
bttf44 - November 15, 2009 11:44 AM (GMT)
Queens of the Stone Age are pretty good. I like their song, No One Knows.
bttf44 - January 6, 2010 05:19 AM (GMT)
Well, now that the actual decade of the '00s has come to an end - I guess time will tell what all that decade will be remembered for. The '90s have, ultimately, become known more for their grunge and post-grunge music - rather than that cheesy pop music that the decade has also given us.
For better or worse, the nu-metal of the '00s will probably become regarded in the same way as hair metal from the '80s is regarded. Some like them for their catchy tunes, while others find them to be an abomination to rock music.
From my understanding, a lot of what we know of as nu-metal bands have started with their rap-rock style - but most, throughout the years, have dropped the rap aspect from their music. Unfortunately, most have never been able to entirely shed themselves free of the "nu-metal" label.
I think Adelita's Way is a pretty good new band, and they're bringing the guitar solo back into rock music. If the band has a chance to flourish, though - they will probably become more known as a band of the '10s. I hope they do get a chance to flourish.
The odds are, emo punk will probably go the way of disco. Even fans of nu-metal hold that genre in very low regard, and mainstream/active rock stations never play anything from that genre.