The Covenant Separatists, And our ALLIANCES.
| Janx Dolaris |
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I think something that can exterminate all life in 1/7 of the galaxy would explode bigger than a plasma torpedo, which doesnt even manage to explode some UNSC ships some times (i believe the Autumn took multiple before it went down).
It was also revealed in First Strike that covenant plasma weapons could actually be made more powerful by focusing the plasma more exactly, Cortana managed to do it. There's also the energy projector which tops a plasma torpedo.
You also have the issue of how we'd get the Dreadnaught since its at the Ark, and is needed to get TO the ark. I doubt we're gonna be able to get the portal working just to retrieve something that was likely destroyed, or severly damaged. Even if it somehow survived the Halo/Ark explosion (which are both many times larger than it) the resulting explosion would push the remains of the Dreadnaught away from the Ark's location at a rather high velocity.
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| Bill-117 |
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The Elites were glassing the entirety of Voi; they wouldn't have upped to focus of their energy projectors just to hit the Forerunner Dreadnought, since Truth is already through the portal.
I'm just sayin' though, Forerunner tech is notoriously hardy. Makes sense that their ships would have the toughest armor of all. Also, the Chief escaped, and his ship was paltry UNSC make. HALF of a UNSC ship.
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| Mars_Windu |
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| QUOTE (Janx Dolaris @ Jan 5 2008, 01:34 AM) | | The Halo ring didnt fire properly, it also exploded. Thats why spark fired at Johnson, cause if they fired it, it'd destroy the station and the ark. |
i thought it was because it still lacked structural integrity to fire properly. 0_0
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| Bill-117 |
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That IS why. If Halo fired before it was fully constructed, it would explode, and Spark freaked because, as the Monitor of Installation 04, he had to keep it safe. Halo only - he had no concern for the Ark.
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Funny cause his line is "A premature firing will destroy the Ark!" and then he says "You would destroy this installation" then ZAP to johsnon.
Your forgetting that a fusion explosion from a UNSC ship can destroy a halo, which i would imagine was designed to be durable. Now, Halo itself runs on something more powerful than a UNSC fusion reactor (Cortana called it off the charts in halo 1), i doubt the Dreadnaught can survive something that powerful, if a halo was ripped in 2 by a fusion reactor created by someone 2 lower than the Forerunners.
The frigate survived cause it probably rode the explosion toward the portal, the force aiding the craft, unlike the Deadnaught which would be pushed into the Ark, and if its as invincible as you think, it'd plow a hole through the Ark.
Also, why else would the portal decide randomly to collapse then if the Ark was unharmed? I'm pretty sure Cortana's line was similar to "Halo detonated and did a number on the Ark. The portal couldn't sustain itself, but we got through just in time...well some of us made it."
Even if the dreadnaught survived an explosion of something atleast 100 times its size (its pretty small compaired to High Charity, there's a scale picture, and High Charity isnt as big as a halo ring), and any resulting damage caused by the Ark. There's still no way to reach the Dreadnaught, and if we managed to get the earth portal to work somehow, the Dreadnaught likely would have been blown away by the explosion, just cause its tough doesnt mean its anchored to a spot in space.
Your failing to get my point. WE CANT GET THE DREADNAUGHT, AND IF WE SOMEHOW DID IT'D BE CRAP.
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| Bill-117 |
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| QUOTE (Janx Dolaris @ Jan 5 2008, 09:53 PM) | | Funny cause his line is "A premature firing will destroy the Ark!" and then he says "You would destroy this installation" then ZAP to johsnon. |
This installation - they were on the Halo at that time, not the Ark. And going back to Halo 1, we saw the Halo being destroyed, right? Maybe. Or was it just rendered unable to function? Just because a battery loses power doesn't mean the whole thing explodes right there.
It just snapped into several pieces. The explosion itself wasn't so big. Unless one of these pieces smacked into the Ark, it'd be alright.
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He also said the ark the line before, your ignoring half of what i quoted.
Halo's reactors didnt go critical in halo 1, the Autumn's did, and it ripped it in half (maybe 3 pieces) as seen in halo 2. Now, a unsc fusion core is likely alot less powerful than the halo's core (fusion or whatever it runs on). The Halo wasnt the cause of the explosion in 1, in 3 it went critical and exploded.
If you look at the halos when firing in 2 and 3, they focus power from all edges, though do get quite a bit from the control center, it is likely the generators at the incomplete parts of the ring are what went critical, not from one single point. The energy that was built up in the middle (which you can see in the final video), likely lost stability and was released in a very violent manner.
As i have already mentioned Cortana said that the Halo "did a number on the ark", which is proof that the Halo damage the ark in some way, and 'did a number' doesnt usually mean just some debris landed on it. The portal also collapsed, which was either being sustainted by the Ark or the Keyship, which implies that either/both took damage.
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| Mars_Windu |
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i think half jaw would've already destroyed it by the time we got to the control room. 'sides, who cares about the dreadnaught ?? HALO 0_0
There are still 6 of those things. and if the 04 installation could be rebuilt, its likely that the ark can be rebuilt as well somehow.
Wait, delta halo was left alone right ??
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| Bill-117 |
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Delta Halo is, most likely, overrun with Flood, as is the remainder of Alpha Halo.
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| Janx Dolaris |
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If everything had a portable station to rebuild it, there'd be an endless chain of rebuilding stuff. Chances are the Forerunners didnt expect the Flood to get to the ark. The Ark was likely built in space, out of whatever that sphere is in the middle.
Halo -> Ark -> 'Legendary' Sphere? -> something else - > something else, it'd go on forever. It'd have to end somehere. and the Ark's a pretty secure spot.
Half-Jaw probably glassed Delta Halo, they mentioned something about 'quartuntine'. Delta Halo was near High Charity. The elites wouldnt let the flood live there forever. The Gravemind wouldnt be talking like it was the end of the world on the rebuilt 04 if he still had a presence on Delta halo.
The flood on alpha halo (the one from number 1?) was likely glassed, or the flood died in the explosion, as the covies were perfectly fine with having their ships near the damaged rings. And they know of the flood.
As far as we know, the flood can't build their own ships, so they'd be stuck on the halos where elites/humans can just blow them up any way.
There are likely flood still in stasis on other halo rings and foreunner fascilities though, and there may even still be some in the galaxy they came from (though it'd probably be foodless).
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