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Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 13 2006, 12:04 AM
Discussion of the 3rd SEED installment.

Posted by: Cyber-kun Mar 13 2006, 03:13 AM
Hopefully it will be the last.

On a more positive note, it's not being directed by Fudaka, so there's hope it will be quite nice, and this "Black Strike" Gundam is cool, and there will be a gunpla model of it...

Posted by: wavehawk Mar 13 2006, 03:49 AM
I just had to reply to this:

QUOTE (Turn A Gundam)
why couldn't they have called it the Noir Gundam or something...
- Given the Beam Pistols and the fact that someone is playing "Canta Per Me" in the background here where I'm logging on--Yeah, I can see a "Noir" Gundam already. All we need now are a hot blonde frenchwoman and her japanese schoolgirl partner, and we're all set. tongue.gif

On that note, maybe a Yuki Kajiura soundtrack and an OP/ED theme by Bee Train instead of T.M. Revolution might be a considerable improvement. Don't get me wrong, I actually like some of T.M. Revolution's music, but I've had pretty much my fill of it by now.

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 13 2006, 02:59 PM
I think the selection of music was up to the Director, so who knows? Perhaps we can get some new bands for SEED SG.

Posted by: Char Aznable Mar 13 2006, 03:24 PM
just throwing this our here...

Gunota-
Minor Stargazer update

A promo sheet that can be seen at the http://char.2log.net/archives/blog1048.html indicates that the OVA will also be shown in stores, like the Gundam Evolve shorts and Astray/SEED MSV promo anime, and that the general release date will be in June. Expansion of related merchandise into the Gundam Collection and HCM-Pro lines is planned.

Posted by: The_Marshal_AEB Mar 13 2006, 04:02 PM
its : -plamodel
-gundamcollection
-HCMPRO

just like select the suitable asnwer "pla model" the other two are waiste of financial resources tongue.gif

Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Mar 13 2006, 08:17 PM
To me, this seems like nothing at all more than Bandai trying to milk the Cosmic Era for all it's worth. The main mech is a chimera of slapped-together Blitz and Strike parts, which of course is for the sole purpose of selling more CE gunpla. Until I see more mecha, or watch it and the story actually is worth the time to watch, I'm not impressed. But, as Cyber-kun said, no more Fukuda, so I do have SOME hope for the story.

Posted by: Vega Vaikyuko Mar 16 2006, 12:52 AM
This is CE's redeemer, I tell you. If they screw this up, CE is OVER.

Posted by: Master P Rayer Mar 16 2006, 01:07 AM
Got this from animenewsnetwork.com, that Stargazer is just 15 minutes ONA with total 3 episodes. I'm not sure what ONA is. But 15 minutes is just to short, why not 25 minutes like usual anime?

Posted by: Ogeray Mar 16 2006, 02:05 AM
are any pics out for the gundam designs? other than the stike noir?
also, what about this "splash gundam" i heard about on some news sites?

Posted by: Kyle81 Mar 16 2006, 04:54 AM
The short run time is likely do to that this is mainly being done as a promotional thing with it being run at various store locations and such, sorta like the Astray OVA/Promos. At least these are a bit longer.

Posted by: CyberSynaptic Mar 16 2006, 06:43 AM
QUOTE (Ogeray @ Mar 15 2006, 06:05 PM)
are any pics out for the gundam designs? other than the stike noir?
also, what about this "splash gundam" i heard about on some news sites?

Splash Gundam? That's first I've heard of that. There was some untrue rumors about a SEED OVA called Gundam SEED Break that supposedly had a Slash Gundam. Are you sure you don't mean that? Either way, there hasn't been any new info about Stargazer besides the Strike Noir and the 2 characters revealed thus far.

Posted by: Vega Vaikyuko Mar 18 2006, 07:27 PM
ONA is Original Net Anime. This is being broadcast over the internet and apparently at some model hobby sotres and the like, similar to the ASTRAY promotionals and the Evolve commercials. The short run time might also be because they're testing the waters with Stargazer as opposed to making a whole new television series or OVA -- these sorts of things take far less time and money to produce and as a result are easier when "testing the waters".

The only MS currently announced were the Strike Noir and the Stargazer itself (which is a very mysterious project, I'd say).

EDIT: Splash Gundam and Celsius Gundam, along with another Gundam I can't recall the name of, were supposed to be slated as the units for three new Extended/druggies in Gundam SEED ETERNITY, which, to my knowledge, is a hoax.

Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Mar 22 2006, 05:50 PM
user posted image

I think this is new. Anyway, enjoy.

Posted by: CyberSynaptic Mar 22 2006, 08:40 PM
Ooh, another "I've got much guns" MS (the one on the right in the orange area)...I've always been fond of those.

If my meager katakana and kanji reading skills are correct, the left MS is some kind of Duel Gundam Custom (Kai), and the right MS is a Buster Gundam Custom (Kai).

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 23 2006, 04:29 AM
Aside from the Torso, I'm sorry but that doesn't even remotely look like a Strike Gundam
Just goes to show you they're again trying to beat a dead horse and capitilize on the Strike's design..

Posted by: Char Aznable Mar 23 2006, 05:14 AM
Honestly, it looks like a kid drew it. Just thrown together parts GAT and ZGMF units.

Posted by: goku1234 Mar 23 2006, 06:47 AM
just little reminded that this is not really the 3rd series, cause i know it only a OVA, not the 3rd series! sorry! =P

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 24 2006, 12:59 AM
According to from what I've read (my reading of kanji isn't great) but I could almost swear that dispite this being OVA status, this will be regarded as a "Third Series" until final notice. Unless Bandai will let Fukuda start one after his Destiny SPED (which they most likely won't) this will probably be considered the third series (and in the opinions of many, they hope it will be the last.) and until they find a new and better director, it's going to stay that way.

The reason this isn't going to be a series is because BanDai can't get any sponsors. It's an OVA because the money that was supposed to come from Destiny, didn't, so they had to take the short and easy way out. It's sad really.

Posted by: CyberSynaptic Mar 24 2006, 06:15 AM
QUOTE (Turn A Gundam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:59 PM)
According to from what I've read (my reading of kanji isn't great) but I could almost swear that dispite this being OVA status, this will be regarded as a "Third Series" until final notice. Unless Bandai will let Fukuda start one after his Destiny SPED (which they most likely won't) this will probably be considered the third series (and in the opinions of many, they hope it will be the last.) and until they find a new and better director, it's going to stay that way.

The reason this isn't going to be a series is because BanDai can't get any sponsors. It's an OVA because the money that was supposed to come from Destiny, didn't, so they had to take the short and easy way out. It's sad really.

Well I'm not part of that "many" because I love the Cosmic Era. Is that a known fact that Destiny did bad Turn-A? Or are you basing this on the opinions of our own Gundam community? I thought Destiny did rather well financially, especially on the merchandise front.

Posted by: Master P Rayer Mar 24 2006, 07:19 AM
I don't really dislike SEED Destiny, it's just that it felt like a normal anime with gundam scene. As long as the story goods and there are lot's of "reasonable" MS, i don't mind if they expand cosmic era to 2 or more series.

Posted by: wavehawk Mar 24 2006, 07:22 AM
I'm getting a "08th MS Seed Team" of sorts from this, for some reason. Anyone else? Not that the main character's going to be a Shirou Amada-type of a character, but the possible romantic connection is a bit too obvious for my taste.

Netcasting seems to be kind of a risk (word is that Stargazer might be available as streaming video on the website--need to confirm, though).

Posted by: codename:V Mar 26 2006, 05:09 PM
My guess is that Bandai had just ran out of ideas on what's next after. Personally, I'm not a SEED fan and more towards UC eras' Gundam animes. SEED saga gives me an impression of Tomino recycling his old gundam works and set it in a new package to attracts the younger generations. Well, you can see the similiarities as compared the UC and CE storylines.

1. SEED - very much based on the UC 0079 One Year War timeline and Macross. (the songtress proganda)

2. SEED Destiny - more towards UC 0087 Gryps War like Kamiru-Four to Shinn-Stella, Hyakushiki to Akatsuki and Pyscho G to Destroy G.

3. SEED Stargazer - What now? 08th MS team or War in a Pocket?

Conclusion, it's time for a new transition for Gundam like they did in Turn A. Shonen and Shoujo really kill the essences in Gundam, if you ask me.

Posted by: Master P Rayer Mar 30 2006, 01:40 PM
Hmm shoujo and shounen kills the essences in gundam? You mean we ought to use grown-up mens or womens???

Posted by: CyberSynaptic Mar 31 2006, 07:33 AM
QUOTE (codename:V @ Mar 26 2006, 09:09 AM)
My guess is that Bandai had just ran out of ideas on what's next after. Personally, I'm not a SEED fan and more towards UC eras' Gundam animes. SEED saga gives me an impression of Tomino recycling his old gundam works and set it in a new package to attracts the younger generations. Well, you can see the similiarities as compared the UC and CE storylines.

1. SEED - very much based on the UC 0079 One Year War timeline and Macross. (the songtress proganda)

2. SEED Destiny - more towards UC 0087 Gryps War like Kamiru-Four to Shinn-Stella, Hyakushiki to Akatsuki and Pyscho G to Destroy G.

3. SEED Stargazer -  What now? 08th MS team or War in a Pocket?

Conclusion, it's time for a new transition for Gundam like they did in Turn A. Shonen and Shoujo really kill the essences in Gundam, if you ask me.

1. Only the first half is like MSG (I think anyway, I haven't seen MSG in ages and some of it leaves me every now and then). Amuro never got another MS in MSG like Kira got Freedom. There's no Athrun-like character in MSG. Rau and Char, although both masked men, had different agendas. There is no overbearing family like the Zabis controlling one side, unless you count Blue Cosmos as a "family", and personally, Minmay isn't in the same class as Lacus. Minmay is a whiny brat who only cared about herself til Hikrau literally slapped some sense into her (love that scene in Macross DYRL), while Lacus genuinely cares about others and the greater good, whatever that is.

2. Although there are some blaring similarities, Destiny can't be put into the same category as Zeta (this coming from a hardcore CE fan, I liked Destiny, but it's nowhere near as good as Zeta). Only similarities I see between Destiny and Zeta are transforming MS and maybe Shinn and Stellar (yes she will always be Stellar to me, not Stella) being somewhat like Kamille and Four.

3. We don't know enough about Stargazer to say if it's gonna end up like anything from the UC.


Also, I'd prefer young men and women in the starring roles over older characters (although 1 or 2 in a show is good). If you're talking about shounen and shoujo aspects in the anime, if they start marketing Gundam exclusively to older people, I doubt it will sell as well...

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 31 2006, 08:47 AM
QUOTE (CyberSynaptic @ Mar 24 2006, 06:15 AM)
QUOTE (Turn A Gundam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:59 PM)
According to from what I've read (my reading of kanji isn't great) but I could almost swear that dispite this being OVA status, this will be regarded as a "Third Series" until final notice. Unless Bandai will let Fukuda start one after his Destiny SPED (which they most likely won't) this will probably be considered the third series (and in the opinions of many, they  hope it will be the last.) and until they find a new and better director, it's going to stay that way.

The reason this isn't going to be a series is because BanDai can't get any sponsors. It's an OVA because the money that was supposed to come from Destiny, didn't, so they had to take the short and easy way out. It's sad really.

Well I'm not part of that "many" because I love the Cosmic Era. Is that a known fact that Destiny did bad Turn-A? Or are you basing this on the opinions of our own Gundam community? I thought Destiny did rather well financially, especially on the merchandise front.

When I say in the opinions of many, I mean many. Granted some like yourself liked Seed and Seed Destiny but the sad fact is the Japanese market disagrees. Compared to SEED, Destiny's model sales were abysmal, however, it's DVD sales were great. Yes. That is a FACT. Ask ANY Expert in Gundam, ANY, and they will back me up on this. They will tell you what I tell you now. Destiny's merchandise sales were pathetic compared to SEEDs, save the DVDs.

Partly because the effects of the "Seed" effect had mostly worn off, the craze for new Gundam dissapating since the starvation of stuff caused by the series Turn A, and of course because as the series progressed, and of course, the series wasn't up to par. It was always in fluctuation, because the writers had to keep up with the changing market. Such with SEED, there was no security in what would happen next. I mean, they made Dearka a hero because Buster wasn't selling well as a kit. Another little fact. They did alot of the same with Destiny. They most likely gave the Gaia new colors to get that much more money. Think of it, you remold the same kit, exact same kit in two different colors, and people have to get both. Look, I'm not bashing SEED or SEED Destiny, I'm simply stating what I know and have confirmed to be true. Take it however and with as many tons of salt as you like.

Back to the point, the fact on topic is, that this is an OVA because BanDai can not afford another fully fledged Gundam SEED series at the moment. I'll be happy to fact check again this with a real expert.

Posted by: codename:V Mar 31 2006, 03:15 PM
Rayer:
This is only an opinion. Besides, we are not getting any younger and expriences made us grow. Adults are quite cool, y' know. Like they did in MGS series.

Turn A:
Not bad, looks like you did a lot researches. True, SEED Destiny sales ain't good as compared to SEED when it first came out. Probably due to some twisted similarities of both design features, which render the products bland.

Cybersynaptic:
Still, there are similarities between UC and CE, right? Well, I kinda grew up with Gundam and y'know, CE doesn't suits my taste(or my age as well) Of course not, anime isn't only limited to older people only!

Posted by: Kyle81 Mar 31 2006, 03:22 PM
QUOTE (Turn A Gundam @ Mar 31 2006, 08:47 AM)
QUOTE (CyberSynaptic @ Mar 24 2006, 06:15 AM)
QUOTE (Turn A Gundam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:59 PM)
According to from what I've read (my reading of kanji isn't great) but I could almost swear that dispite this being OVA status, this will be regarded as a "Third Series" until final notice. Unless Bandai will let Fukuda start one after his Destiny SPED (which they most likely won't) this will probably be considered the third series (and in the opinions of many, they  hope it will be the last.) and until they find a new and better director, it's going to stay that way.

The reason this isn't going to be a series is because BanDai can't get any sponsors. It's an OVA because the money that was supposed to come from Destiny, didn't, so they had to take the short and easy way out. It's sad really.

Well I'm not part of that "many" because I love the Cosmic Era. Is that a known fact that Destiny did bad Turn-A? Or are you basing this on the opinions of our own Gundam community? I thought Destiny did rather well financially, especially on the merchandise front.

When I say in the opinions of many, I mean many. Granted some like yourself liked Seed and Seed Destiny but the sad fact is the Japanese market disagrees. Compared to SEED, Destiny's model sales were abysmal, however, it's DVD sales were great. Yes. That is a FACT. Ask ANY Expert in Gundam, ANY, and they will back me up on this. They will tell you what I tell you now. Destiny's merchandise sales were pathetic compared to SEEDs, save the DVDs.

Partly because the effects of the "Seed" effect had mostly worn off, the craze for new Gundam dissapating since the starvation of stuff caused by the series Turn A, and of course because as the series progressed, and of course, the series wasn't up to par. It was always in fluctuation, because the writers had to keep up with the changing market. Such with SEED, there was no security in what would happen next. I mean, they made Dearka a hero because Buster wasn't selling well as a kit. Another little fact. They did alot of the same with Destiny. They most likely gave the Gaia new colors to get that much more money. Think of it, you remold the same kit, exact same kit in two different colors, and people have to get both. Look, I'm not bashing SEED or SEED Destiny, I'm simply stating what I know and have confirmed to be true. Take it however and with as many tons of salt as you like.

Back to the point, the fact on topic is, that this is an OVA because BanDai can not afford another fully fledged Gundam SEED series at the moment. I'll be happy to fact check again this with a real expert.

It's fact bandai doesn't have the money to make another CE TV series?

I'm sorry but this is nothing but 100% opinion, and NO one can claim that as a fact. Only Bandai Japan and Sunrise would know this, and there not going to be letting such info fly around.

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 31 2006, 03:38 PM
No, BanDai couldn't get enough sponsors for a Series. Money is only half the game.
Well, I said it was fact. I didn't say you had to accept it. What I say I have, like I have said many times, checked and double checked with all experts who understand the inner workings better than I do. Namely Chris Guanche and Zeonic Marine. Remember, ZM at one point did work for BanDai at one point as moderator for GOUF. But hey, let's put it this way.

If you can prove to me with data from a knowlegable and/or official source, that what I'm saying is wrong, I will gladly admit I was wrong. Of course, you know, I am right, but hey, I've got no problem running it by. I must, as they say, stick to my guns.


Posted by: Kyle81 Mar 31 2006, 04:14 PM
Lets not escalate things then

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Mar 31 2006, 04:45 PM
Indeed, as they say, agree to disagree. Always works for me.

My source for the sponsor is directly from RGZ of Gunota Headlines, so always feel free to check with him. His contact addy is on Gunota Headlines.

Posted by: Char Aznable Apr 10 2006, 12:01 PM
-Gunota

SEED C.E. 73 Stargazer site opens
Info from the http://www.seed-stargazer.net/ which opened today:

Organizations:
Deep Space Survey and Development Organization (DSSD) - A group founded to survey & develop regions beyond the orbit of Mars. The Earth Alliance, PLANT, and neutral powers cooperated in its establishment though it is neutral with regard to the Alliance & ZAFT and has special jurisdiction. The fundamental principle is "The advancement of frontiers": to transcend all countries, organizations, religions, and races, sending that doctrine from the human species out to the far-reaches of space.

Phantom Pain - A special military force that answers to Logos, Blue Cosmos' supreme governing organization. The unit is a private army organized by Blue Cosmos. Blue Cosmos, thus far not getting the depended on military power from the Earth Alliance, formed the group as a way of directly embodying their personal intentions. Phantom Pain's parent organization is comprised of Alliance personnel & equipment. Notices issued from the Earth Alliance's upper echelon, in situations where goods and personnel are requested by Phantom Pain, are informal but are to be responded to without delay. With that assistance, Phanton Pain can take in provisions and furnishings wherever they go. But only Logos and representatives of Logos possess command authority over them. Even within the Alliance, only a tiny few of its leaders are aware of the particulars regarding Phantom Pain. As a private army, they aren't bound by the armistice treaty entered into by the Alliance and ZAFT. The treaty prohibits both the Alliance and ZAFT from having N-Jammer Cancellers, nuclear weapons, Mirage Colloid, loading ships with Phase Shift armor, and possessing nuclear-powered mobile suits but Phantom Pain disregards that and executes operations using ships that carry such things. And since they are funded behind the scenes by Blue Cosmos, the equipment they get is radical but extravagant.

Mecha:
GSX-401FW Stargazer - Affilated with DSSD.

GAT-X105E Strike Noir - A mobile suit specializing in close-range combat deployed by the Earth Alliance's 81st Independent Mobile Battalion (aka Phantom Pain). It's based on the X105 Strike and piloted by lieutenant junior grade Sven Cal Bayan. Integrated performance improvement measures on the unit were conducted by Actaeon Industries.

Characters:
Selene McGriff - 28-year-old female Coordinator. One of the engineering staff on the DSSD engineering development's GSX-401FW Stargazer Project. "Mankind must set out to space." Those words are Selene's guiding principle. As is the case with many DSSD staff, she was born and raised in space and her parents are also members. Bright but has a strong tendency to be somewhat egotistical. Once she decides what her goal is, she won't be happy until she achieves it and, that being the case, she won't choose a way of meeting her objectives without great effort. Strong-minded and unafraid of being criticized for her methods. Aggressive at times and, as a result, much of her nature is to disregard her partner's ideas though if someone tries that with her, she'll be reluctant and impassionate. Nevertheless, since the DSSD is an organization with a high ratio of eccentrics and freaks among the personnel, Selene hasn't especially changed.

Sven Cal Bayan - 19-year-old male Natural. A lieutenant junior grade in the Earth Alliance's 81st Independent Mobile Battalion (Phantom Pain). Pilot of the mobile suit GAT-X105E Strike Noir. Part of a special combat MS platoon with another 2-3 people. Orphaned due to an incident when he was very young. Afterwards, he became affiliated with Phantom Pain as an elite combat member for Coordinator extermination warfare. What's the reason for his intense hatred of Coordinators...and what is the past of this cruel fighting machine?

Posted by: The_Marshal_AEB Apr 10 2006, 02:44 PM
And Xplosion G-SEED is up too http://www.xg-seed.net/ where it's suppose to have that STARGAZER show in the events

Posted by: codename:V Apr 10 2006, 03:45 PM
And still we have no idea how the Stargazer looks like. dry.gif

Posted by: Chaos Incarnate Apr 10 2006, 08:55 PM
Hopefully they got someone other than Okawara to design it, though I doubt it... dry.gif

Posted by: codename:V Apr 11 2006, 07:37 AM
SEED's mecha designs ain't my favourite either. Most of the design features are commonly found in our house kitchen or tools case appliances.

Posted by: CyberSynaptic May 9 2006, 07:28 PM
Some more Stargazer C.E. 73 Info from Gunota:

QUOTE
Stargazer staff update
The http://www.seed-stargazer.net/index.html lists the following additional staff, among other miscellaneous crew members:
Mecha design - Kimitoshi Yamane, Kenki Fujioka
Design works - Thinkport
Music - Megumi Ohashi


Hmm, so the designer of the Gundam Ez8 and some Zeon MS from 08th MS Team (Yamane-san) and the Advance of Zeta mecha designer (Fujioka-san) are working on Stargazer along with Okawara-san and BEE-CRAFT eh? I wonder what other units they have planned for us (I happen to really like the Strike Noir, Duel Kai and Buster Kai so far).

Seeing as this board is AoZ heavy, what do you guys think of the Hazel designer working on a CE project? Personally, I'd love to see his take on a CE Earth Alliance grunt MS.

Posted by: Master P Rayer May 10 2006, 05:25 AM
I'd like to see a Dagger which boots have been "pulled-up" and "pressed", you know, like Fujioka did with AOZ GM Type C hehehehe.

Posted by: codename:V May 10 2006, 11:09 AM
"Pulled-up" and "Pressed-down" boots? I don't get it. blink.gif

Posted by: Master P Rayer May 11 2006, 02:49 AM
I sorry if my vocabulary confuse you, but all i meant was like this.

user posted image

Posted by: codename:V May 11 2006, 08:32 AM
Oh, I see. But I thought they already got that.

Posted by: Turn A Gundam May 11 2006, 10:19 AM
Let's get back on topic please.

Thank you.

-Mgmt.

Posted by: codename:V May 12 2006, 05:38 AM
Still expecting more MS designs especially from Zaft and Orb in future, maybe more new TMSs' and hopefully a preview of the Stargazer.

Posted by: CyberSynaptic May 13 2006, 04:59 AM
I heard from a friend that the Stargazer is somehow connected to the development of the Strike Freedom. She apparently read it in some magazine.

Posted by: codename:V May 13 2006, 04:52 PM
Does that mean the Stargazer may have a silhoutte of the Strike Freedom?

Posted by: Zionista May 15 2006, 03:40 PM
QUOTE (Turn A Gundam @ Mar 24 2006, 12:59 AM)
According to from what I've read (my reading of kanji isn't great) but I could almost swear that dispite this being OVA status, this will be regarded as a "Third Series" until final notice. Unless Bandai will let Fukuda start one after his Destiny SPED (which they most likely won't) this will probably be considered the third series (and in the opinions of many, they hope it will be the last.) and until they find a new and better director, it's going to stay that way.

The reason Fukuda-san is not involved with this project is because he was given a SEED movie project which continues the SEED-SEED DESTINY storyline. (See recent announcements in Gunota.) Since he is doing that, the side story is given to someone else. Not bad handling, really, since the new shorts give Sunrise the chance to give some of their up & coming people the chance to get a director's credit.

Posted by: CyberSynaptic May 25 2006, 06:41 PM
I'm really liking the features on the 3 Gundams they've shown so far for Stargazer. If you haven't seen on Gunota yet, here's the specs of the 3, and some info about their pilots:

QUOTE
GAT-X105E Strike Noir
Overall height: 17.72m
Weight: 90.5 tons
Armaments
M2M5 Todesschrecken 12.5mm x 2
M8F-SB1 beam rifle Shorty (?)
MR-Q10 Flagalac 3 beam blades
MAU-M3E42 linked linear guns

A mobile suit specializing in close-range combat deployed by the Earth Alliance's 81st Independent Mobile Battalion (aka Phantom Pain). It's based on the X105 Strike and piloted by lieutenant junior grade Sven Cal Bayan. Integrated performance improvement measures on the unit were conducted by Actaeon Industries.

Pilot: Sven Cal Bayan - 19-year-old male Natural. A lieutenant junior grade in the Earth Alliance's 81st Independent Mobile Battalion (Phantom Pain). Pilot of the mobile suit GAT-X105E Strike Noir. Part of a special combat MS platoon with another 2-3 people. Orphaned due to an incident when he was very young. Afterwards, he became affiliated with Phantom Pain as an elite combat member for Coordinator extermination warfare. What's the reason for his intense hatred of Coordinators...and what is the past of this cruel fighting machine?



GAT-X103AP Verde Buster Gundam
Overall height (antenna): 18.46m
Weight: 99.36 tons
Armaments
Right shoulder: 350mm gunlauncher
Left shoulder: 94mm high energy beam cannon
6-tube missle launcher x 2 (220mm multipurpose missle 6-tube pods)
Beam rifle with bayonette x 2 (M9009B composite bayonette-equipped model beam rifle)

A unit developed by Actaeon Industries based on the GAT-X103 Buster. The cannons that were on its hips were moved to the shoulders so the hips were equipped with newly developed beam cannons. With the increase in firepower, reinforced armor, and its bayonettes, it's close-combat ability has been upped considerably.

Pilot: Shams Coza - 19-years-old. Male. Natural. Lieutenant Junior Grade affiliated with Phantom Pain. Pilot of the mobile suit GAT-X103AP. With his co-workers Sven and Mudie, the 3 form a special MS platoon.



GAT-X1022 Blu Duel Gundam
Overall height (antenna): 16.89m
Weight: 84.24 tons
Armaments
M2M5 Todesschrecken 12.5mm x 2
Mk315 Stiletto rocket-propelled anti-armor penetrator
M443 Scorpion mobile railgun
ES05A beam saber x 2
M7G2 retractable beam gun

A unit developed by Actaeon Industries based on the GAT-X102 Duel. Its back is equipped with large thrusters and is enhanced with exceptional mobility and armor. Excels in close-quarters combat with weapons concealed inside its shoulder armor, arms, and underside of its shield. Further, in contrast to the Assault Shroud on ZAFT's original Duel, the Blu Duel's reinforced armored entire body has PS armor.

Pilot: Mudie Holcroft - 18-years-old. Female. Natural. 2nd Lieutenant affiliated with Phantom Pain. Pilot of the mobile suit GAT-X1022. With her co-workers Sven and Shams, the 3 form a special MS platoon.


My guess is that the M2M5 Todesschrecken are the head vulcans. I like how the assault-shroudish parts of the Blu Duel have phase-shift armor now and its retracable beam gun. I'm still a little confused at the shield fixed on it's right shoulder though. It's also interesting to see that they gave Buster some close-combat weaponry. Not sure how bayonets will fare against PS armored MS, but against the normal ones, they should be fine.

As for the pilots, Mudie kinda looks like a quiet anti-social. Either that, or she might be one of those snobby b***h characters. Actually, she reminds me of that one lady in 08th MS Team that lead her Zaku team into Kiki's village. Her EA uniform is a bit more revealing than Stellar's (I guess you can show your thong in th EA military).

Shams reminds me of a dark-skinned Sai Argyle (it's the glasses).

You can see their pics and pics of the Blu Duel and Verde Buster at the Stargazer site under characters and mechanics.

Posted by: Char Aznable May 25 2006, 07:15 PM
Gunota Stargazer Update

Stargazer site update

http://www.seed-stargazer.net/mechanics/index.html:
Blu Duel
"A unit developed by Actaeon Industries based on the GAT-X102 Duel. Its back is equipped with large thrusters and is enhanced with exceptional mobility and armor. Excels in close-quarters combat with weapons concealed inside its shoulder armor, arms, and underside of its shield. Further, in contrast to the Assault Shroud on ZAFT's original Duel, the Blu Duel's reinforced armored entire body has PS armor."

Verde Buster
"A unit developed by Actaeon Industries based on the GAT-X103 Buster. The cannons that were on its hips were moved to the shoulders so the hips were equipped with newly developed beam cannons. With the increase in firepower, reinforced armor, and its bayonettes, it's close-combat ability has been upped considerably."

http://www.seed-stargazer.net/character/index.html:
Edmund du Clos (in addition to previously posted info)
"Bachelor. Retired from the army when the war ended in C.E. 71 and was appointed security personnel in the DSSD's Technology Development Center on the outskirts of Fortaleza, South America. At the time he retired, he had been a lieutenant commander. Has a strong sense of responsibility and takes good care of others. Because of that, he is the kind of person who gets unnecessarily involved in things. And so when his sister's son was orphaned, he offered to raise the boy himself. As someone who was once a soldier, he naturally has much resentment towards his ZAFT battlefield rivals."

Mudie Holcroft
Shams Coza

Posted by: Deacon Blues May 26 2006, 05:43 PM
Char Blog reports from Gundam ACE that net distribution starts on Friday, July 14th. A private showing will occur a week before.

Posted by: Distortion Jun 13 2006, 08:21 PM
I have a feeling the Seed Universe might be the next U.C. Gundam Seed is hugh in Japan. Kids buy this stuff up like there's no tommorrow. I just hope the show is good. I do like the three MS so far. The remodel verison of Duel and Buster are cool. Any news on who might tranlate the show?

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Jun 13 2006, 08:27 PM
In terms of a dub, its far too early to tell. In terms of a sub, the usual suspects probably. Seed_Fansubs, Zeonic Corps, etc.

Oh, and I read an interesting article reading how plamo in general sales have slumped after the end of Destiny in japan. Perhaps the effect has worn off, but no doubt sales will either go up a little or spike with the release of Stargazer. Only time will tell. As for Gundam popularity in America, well let's just say the masses are not so thrilled anymore, thanks to many various and understandable reasons. Which calls into question when and/or if Stargazer will be brought to America.

Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Jun 14 2006, 01:08 AM
I have to say, my hopes for Stargazer redeeming Destiny have lowered a bit. There's a promo preview for Stargazer out nowand it looked pretty good up until "Strike Noir's" battle sequence. Anyone who's seen ep. 32 of Destiny understands the quotations. Also, here's the promo in case one hasn't seen it yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlaN1USU0TY&search=seed%20stargazer

Posted by: wavehawk Jun 17 2006, 06:11 AM
Hmmmnn. Needs a bit more punch, if that's supposed to be a promo video. IMHO, this should have been a lot more interesting, but the way it's done seems more like something that'll put me to sleep rather than convince me that the CE universe could be saved.

I could be wrong, though. They could actually be dumping the mecha battles in favor of storyline...but I'm not holding out my hand too far out.

Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Jun 17 2006, 05:30 PM
I have my doubts about how grand or epic they can make a story with only a max of 45 minutes to tell it and having new Gundams means we'll (most likely) see more uninteresting battles with more flash than substance. The fact that the PROMO showed recycled animation from Destroy Gundam to pretend Strike Noir was blowing things up is sad proof of this, I think.

Posted by: sandrum Jun 17 2006, 06:16 PM
I thought that a 45 minute feature would feature more "animation" and a whole lot less of the "scrolling camera" that they kill the promo with (actually, a lot of episodes too). They milk the stuffing out of that to eat time that they could use to better the action or story. Nothing really jumps out at me from this promo except that it just seemed so boring to me.

Posted by: Deacon Blues Jun 17 2006, 06:44 PM
Well, you have to remember, this isn't suppose to appeal to the ZOMG SEED FANBOIZ LAWL! crowd. This is suppose to be something more serious, we we may or may not have epic mobile suit battles.

Posted by: wavehawk Jul 16 2006, 06:36 AM
(Looks at the Stargazer on the Wiki site)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gsx-401fw.jpg

Hula Hoop Gundam. We are all doomed.

Yes, I know that it's unconfirmed and most likely a hoax, but the image still disturbs me.

Posted by: sandrum Jul 16 2006, 08:01 AM
QUOTE (wavehawk @ Jul 16 2006, 03:36 PM)
(Looks at the Stargazer on the Wiki site)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Gsx-401fw.jpg

Hula Hoop Gundam. We are all doomed.

Yes, I know that it's unconfirmed and most likely a hoax, but the image still disturbs me.

LOL, That IS the CONFIRMED Stargazer. tongue.gif

The official stargazer site (mechanics)
http://www.seed-stargazer.net/mechanics/index.html

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Jul 16 2006, 08:19 AM
Well hey, at least it looks different. And I dig the silver color scheme. wink.gif

Posted by: Terrance Jul 16 2006, 05:19 PM
Anyone else see an Astray influence on the Stargazer?

Posted by: wavehawk Jul 22 2006, 10:45 AM
QUOTE (sandrum @ Jul 16 2006, 08:01 AM)
LOL, That IS the CONFIRMED Stargazer. tongue.gif

All this, and the fact that the Crossbone Gundam will be MG'ed before the F90 makes me break down and cry. It truly does.

Any good news at all this week? sad.gif

Posted by: s2mega Aug 3 2006, 10:44 AM
plz dont tell me i'm the only one here who knows of Fitchenfoo and his http://www.fichtenfoo.com/02GiantRobots/02a-ShinobiStrike.html# from last year... can anyone say RIPOFF??
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Posted by: Terrance Aug 3 2006, 08:54 PM
QUOTE (Terrance @ Jul 16 2006, 05:19 PM)
Anyone else see an Astray influence on the Stargazer?

...Anybody?

Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Aug 3 2006, 11:28 PM
I do. From the waist down, especially.

Posted by: wavehawk Aug 4 2006, 10:03 AM
QUOTE (s2mega @ Aug 3 2006, 10:44 AM)
plz dont tell me i'm the only one here who knows of Fitchenfoo and his http://www.fichtenfoo.com/02GiantRobots/02a-ShinobiStrike.html# from last year... can anyone say RIPOFF??

The similarities are like Windows and Mac OS. The only reason Bandai will never own up to stealing Fitch's design is because they're a company. happy.gif

Well, it could be worse...they could have called it "Stargate Gundam" and...(Scuffles heard)

Posted by: Turn A Gundam Sep 27 2006, 09:41 PM
QUOTE (wavehawk @ Aug 4 2006, 10:03 AM)

The similarities are like Windows and Mac OS. The only reason Bandai will never own up to stealing Fitch's design is because they're a company. happy.gif

I reccomend the movie "Pirates of Silicon Valley" for that statement.
Hey, I think fitch should be honored if he had a design ripped off for an actual series. I know I would be, all of it's wrongness aside.

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