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|T³ Arc > 1/144th Models > HGUC Hazel II|
|Posted by: Char Aznable Jul 21 2006, 03:55 PM|
Well, Guy's you heared it. The next AoZ HGUC is the Hazel II. Just like always, Discuss what you think about it, and hopfully it'll be what we expected.
So, I can see the re-use of prats from the previous kit's and maybe some MKII?.
|Posted by: Titans Ace Jul 21 2006, 04:17 PM|
|So this kit will be painted in the TTT colors? Or will it be in the first Hazel kit colors?|
|Posted by: Master P Rayer Jul 22 2006, 04:51 AM|
|Hope they can convert it to GM Quell. I wonder if they include the full armor too.|
|Posted by: wavehawk Jul 22 2006, 10:32 AM|
Seconded. While the Hazel II is quite a good MS kit to want, I'd like to see the Quel-conversion capability as an option as well.
|Posted by: Terrance Jul 22 2006, 02:37 PM|
Well, even if it doesn't, look how many common components they share. Bandai'd be crazy not to release a seperate Quel
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Jul 22 2006, 05:55 PM|
I'd imagine that it would be released in http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/aoz/rgm-79cr.htm alternate Titans colour scheme...but who knows?
I think the HGUC Hazel II's compatibility with a possible GM Quell is a given...like Terrance said, they share so many common components. The Hazel II is, after all, a modified/re-designated GM Quell.
I wonder if this kit will see the advent of the 90mm GM beam rifle...
|Posted by: Bazookafied Jul 22 2006, 09:04 PM|
| That 90mm rifle is SO CLOSE to HGUC-ification right now... with the AoZ stuff out, with the Powered GM, there are plenty of Mobile Suits in the HGUC lineup that can use it... but just haven't used it enough to have it be part of their kit. The Gm Type C, GM Kai, GM Custom, all mobile suits that are so close to some of these recent designs, we HAVE to have something like that eventually!
I can't wait... as I would love to stick that Tri-booster on a Hazel Custom! Though the normal GM Quel legs are nice too, I just would like to see the possabilities of the interchangeable parts in AoZ.
|Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Jul 23 2006, 08:57 AM|
|The first two Hazel HGUC's were fantastic, in this is my favorite Hazel of the line, so I'm pretty excited about it. I would also be overjoyed if this thing could convert to a GM Quel. I'm definitely crossing my fingers for it.|
|Posted by: Mechapinoyboy Jul 23 2006, 09:49 AM|
| I'd love to have a kit with both Quel and Hazel heads, and with the FA option.
but knowing bandai....
I'm starting to save up for about three more Hazel-type kits...
|Posted by: Cyber-kun Jul 23 2006, 10:30 PM|
|Ooh, this will be nice. Another thought is that IF it is made into a GM Quel, Bandai may remold it as a GM Custom as well.|
|Posted by: ProtoMMC Jul 24 2006, 03:10 AM|
| With the tri-boost unit, it will open more capabilities for the Hazels. I doubt it's likely that they'll have a convertable Quell in it given the old bandai BUT LATELY....they've been listening to consumers so...maybe a change!?
I'd like to see the GM TTT Kai/Sniper convertability though I doubt it'll happen. Gotta see what happens...
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Jul 24 2006, 03:24 AM|
| I'd most definitely put hopes into a possible GM Quell before putting them into a GM Custom. While they are fundamentally very similar, the GM Quell would be more 'dependent', if you will, on the HGUC Hazel's design (a very successful kit in terms of sales) whereas the GM Custom would be more dependent on the HGUC Gundam Alex's (a less than fabulous kit and all around proportionately awkward.) Save for a couple minor detail differences, their lower torsos are identical...but the dissimilarities begin in the upper torso. GM Custom shares a variation of nearly all major aesthetic components of the Alex's upper torso (arms included)…and with how overwhelmingly un-fantastic the Alex's HGUC incarnation was, I'm almost resenting the Custom's possible release. Almost. I'm sure I'd get over myself with any sort of news pertaining to an HGUC GM Custom. Anyway, Bandai is much more likely to release the Quell and hold off on the Custom for one key reason: effort. The GM Quell would only require the HGUC Hazel II's upper and lower torsos, a new head design, and Alex's backpack (if it isn't resized.) Nice and effortless. Let's take into consideration the HGUC GM Command: we have every canon variation of the GM Command save the GM Sniper II…the one that digresses the most from the original design and the one that would take the most effort to produce (for a remold.) But in the end, a GM Custom still somewhat possible.
Anyway, not to be the guy that totally bashes speculation, I’d like to join in…for kicks giggles: with a number of new pieces, a touch of Guncannon MPT, a little GM Custom (a possibility, thanks to the HGUC Hazel II) and a wee bit of Alex's Chobham Armour…we just might get a GM Cannon II! That's pretty far out there and I kinda contradicted myself, I know. Oh well, it's fun.
|Posted by: Bazookafied Jul 24 2006, 02:55 PM|
|Well, the conversion to the GM Quel isn't that far off of an idea, except for the fact that I would expect that this detail would've been released to us by now. Recently, Bandai has released the Dom/Rick Dom and its conversion parts, so I don't think that a quick conversion to a GM Quel is that far off. We'll just have to wait and see|
|Posted by: Char Aznable Aug 1 2006, 08:29 PM|
|http://www.hobby-midori.com/img/hbjilyouhou/pn-0477.JPG of the HGUC Hazel II.|
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Aug 2 2006, 06:55 AM|
|Those Quell parts are looking absolutely superb! I can very nearly see a GM Quell in our future. Don't look twice, gents, but look what it has in its right hand...a 90mm GM Beam Rifle! I called it.|
|Posted by: Char Aznable Aug 2 2006, 01:44 PM|
|I'd like to make the Conpeito Quell if we ever get one (A HGUC Quell that is). Which hopefully we will, along with many other GM variants.|
|Posted by: Bazookafied Aug 2 2006, 02:41 PM|
| One thing i'm noticing with this HGUC Hazel II is that its cockpit armor is the Quell's, not the extended one of the Hazel Custom. Also, from the looks of the prototype, they have redone the head crest, I can't make it out very well though.
Here's an image I pulled from one of the sites listed on our Upcoming Gunpla posts:
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Aug 2 2006, 03:42 PM|
The http://aoz.numinalabs.com/images/e/ec/RX-121-2_back.gif has always sported GM Quell's cockpit armour, but, as you pointed out, the head crest does in fact digress from the original design...different colour, even. The funny thing is, I've never noticed the head antenna.
I'm definitely going to paint mine in TTT colours.
|Posted by: Bazookafied Aug 2 2006, 08:50 PM|
|Perhaps they're going for the version that is strictly in that image, as the head crest on that Hazel II looks different too.|
|Posted by: Terrance Aug 2 2006, 09:15 PM|
|Perhaps the antenna is molded into the new head crest?|
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Aug 3 2006, 02:08 AM|
By the looks of http://aoz.numinalabs.com/images/1/1f/RX-121-2_main.png image, the antenna is not connected to the head crest...but, with the modification made to the original design seen in this prototype (the new Quell-like head crest) this may not be the case. The back half of the prototype's head, like the new parts, appears to be white; likely to accommodate the antenna.
|Posted by: Char Aznable Aug 4 2006, 02:04 PM|
| Guy's, HLJ has the http://www.hlj.com/product/BAN945935 for this guy (and pic's at slightly different angles).
|Posted by: Terrance Aug 4 2006, 10:36 PM|
|Interesting, it seems to have a more traditional head crest. It looks very rounded, though...filler material to stand in for the Hazel's crest?|
|Posted by: tetsujin Aug 11 2006, 09:41 PM|
They'd need to include the right feet - well, unless they mimic the MG Quel.
It's kind of funny - GM Quel comes from GM Custom, GM Custom comes from Gundam ver. Ka/GM-C... All have Katoki feet. Hazel also comes from this heritage for the most part. MG GM Quel inherits Alex feet, AoZ makes Hazel-II based on MG GM Quel (hence Alex feet), and then Bandai makes a HGUC Hazel-II... With Alex feet.
It's just weird, is all, the way things happen sometimes.
|Posted by: wavehawk Aug 12 2006, 04:41 AM|
| I forget how far back, but remember the DHM issue that had instructions to scratch-build a Hazel II? I was actually thinking seriously of ways to do this once the Hazel II comes out.
Rebuilding the Hazel II into a GM Quel:
Personally, I don't think the feet difference is enough of a problem if you want to convert this to the GM Quel--In fact, the only major work you'd probably need would be the backpack. The rest of the kit conversion should be relatively easy.
Part of that article shows how to build a GM Head using parts from the Hazel and the Gundam MK-II, plus some putty work. Since the Hazel II head is a lot closer to the Quel, I think the only real problem will be making the GM Quel's face and the head crest from putty. You'll probabaly need to drill two holes in the Hazel II head for Vulcans, though.
Again, the Hazel II body makes thing a lot easier. The only thing you'd really need to change would be the shoulderpods--sand them flat and possibly work some putty to fill in the shoulder spaces.
The only thing I can think of for the Backpack conversion would be to either scratchbuild from Ptty and plastic plate--or get from the NT-1 Alex (HGUC or old kit). I seem to recallt he GM Custom's backpack being very similar to that on the Alex.
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Aug 12 2006, 09:26 AM|
You're right for the most part, but the GM Custom is largely more derivative of the Gundam Alex (in a design/aesthetic sense) and only somewhat derivative of the GM Kai. The Master Grade versions of the GM Custom and GM Quell were slapped with a few MG Alex remold parts...including the feet (which, as you pointed out, were supposed to be Ver. Ka.) The models in the HGUC Hazel series all have the same feet, which -being derivative of the nonexistent HGUC GM Quell- are Ver. Ka…therefore, being the base unit of the Hazels, any possible HGUC Quell should share feet with its historical predecessor. Meaning, any future HGUC incarnation of the GM Custom should also have the HGUC Hazel’s Ver. Ka feet. Oddly, the HGUC Powered GM appears to be fitted with a different version of the Ver. Ka feet we’ve seen on the Hazels thus far. Woo...I don’t think I’ve ever written ‘HGUC’ or ‘Ver. Ka’ so many times in one paragraph.
When the HGUC Hazel Custom was announced many moons ago, a couple of the first things I feared were whether or not it would have the HGUC Alex’s feet and hideously undersized upper torso. I was so relieved to see that such was not the case. I’m actually thinking of giving my HGUC Alex a modded version of Hazel’s upper torso and maybe some version two joints, too.
Back to the topic...yes, the Gundam Alex, GM Custom and GM Quell all share the same type of backpack.
|Posted by: tetsujin Aug 12 2006, 06:40 PM|
The designs have some relationship - as you pointed out, the similar backpack is one similarity. The basic shape of the chest block is another. But despite these similarities, the style and proportions of the Alex are vastly different from that of the Custom or Quel. The Alex can't share parts with the GMs without either the Alex suffering (as it did in MG) or the GMs suffering (as they would if they were based on the excellent HGUC Alex.) But Alex feet on a Custom or Quel are just dead wrong. Doing that in MG was just a result of Bandai cutting corners.
|Posted by: Bazookafied Aug 17 2006, 06:52 PM|
| When the Hazel Custom was released, one of the first things I heard people ranting about was "HEY!!! This is a sign of the soon-to-be GM Quel!" Then we got the Advanced Hazel, which was yet another step closer since it shares those titans colors. Now we're another step closer to the GM Quel with this Hazel II, but do you think with so many Quel variations out there that we'll see one now? I didn't expect a Hazel II though its quite nice. The Hazel design is one of my favorites, but Its almost like they are intentionally skipping the other MS from that series like the GM Sniper III, Gabaldy High Mob, Rosette, Hi-Zack Proto, Fiver (which is now on the drawing board!!) and a bunch of others, not to mentoin the Zeon Remnaints "Stutzer" units.
Its just odd to me that this story has seen nothing but Hazel variants. In the case of Sentinel "HGUC-ification" they released two S Variants and a Xeku Eins, but we haven't seen any signs of HGUC Zeon Remnaints. Its puzzling.
|Posted by: wavehawk Aug 19 2006, 07:22 AM|
I agree. At the very least, I would have expected DHM to release some simple conversion parts for the Stutzers, much like the Hrududu and the Sword Calamity parts they've previously included with their magazines.
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Aug 19 2006, 08:14 AM|
|The problem with that is the fact that the base units for the Stutzers have not yet been released.|
|Posted by: Bazookafied Sep 5 2006, 06:48 PM|
This month... welcome the Hazel II to the family of AoZ Merchandise!
|Posted by: ryukaze Sep 6 2006, 12:32 AM|
| and just wen i thought they wouldnt do any more of them hazels..heh...
a must buy for those who are hazel-nuts!
i'm definitely am one..hahahaha..
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Sep 6 2006, 12:57 AM|
| Very nice thus far.
Speaking of the Hazel lineage, I personally wonder if the Primrose or the Hrududu will ever be legitimately released into the HGUC line. If so, let’s hold off on those and try for some original AoZ suits, no matter how awesome the above mentioned are.
|Posted by: toysdream Sep 6 2006, 01:09 AM|
Gosh, that would be nice. The Hrdudu kit was great as far as magazine bonus goodies go, but it's hardly up to HG-UC standards, and an HG-UC Hazel-Rah would be a real treat.
For the moment, the TR-5 Gaplant seems like the leading contender for HG-UC production after the Hazel II, since it can so easily be adapted from the existing kit. But one never knows...
|Posted by: Char Aznable Sep 6 2006, 01:44 AM|
| I'd actually prefer to see a "Zeon Alive" HGUC instead of a TTT one. Eventhough i won't be dissapointed if the next IS a TTT unit but still.
EDIT: Here http://www.1999.co.jp/asp/GoodsDetails_e.asp?Bno=&It_c=10050782&Typ1_c=109&Typ2_c=180&Typ3_c=679&Spage=1&SC=0&app_url=top_right109_e.asp about the HGUC Hazel II
|Posted by: wavehawk Sep 23 2006, 05:10 AM|
What do you mean? The Zaku II and Rick Dom have already been HG'ed, and I guess it wouldn't be too much of an issue remaking the Gelgoog Marine. If it's an issue with the body, then it might be a bit larger, but as we'll see in January, the Primrose shows that a DHM-released kit can replace existing HGUC parts (and not just add to them, such as the Hrududu).
Besides, they already released "Zeon Alive" decal stickers with the AOZ sticker set sometime back.
Just my $0.02.
|Posted by: darkstar0083 Sep 23 2006, 07:17 AM|
The Zaku and Dom Stutzer units use Katoki variations very similar to the Zaku II F2 and (more or less) the Domtropen as their base units. In fact, the Zaku II F2, Domtropen, and the Gelgoog Marine were all based off of redesigns that Katoki did some time before 0083 was released. That said, it's possible that the Stutzer Dom and Gelgoog might live to see production in the HGUC line as both the Domtropen and Gelgoog Marine have already been released...though we won't be seeing a Zaku Stutzer until we get an HGUC Zaku II F2.
|Posted by: Kaiser Dragon Sep 23 2006, 06:56 PM|
| HLJ now has the Hazel II in stock!
|Posted by: wavehawk Sep 24 2006, 07:50 AM|
Maybe, but I'm more considering the tutzer parts as no-grade parts that come with DHM as opposed to all-new stuff. But that's just me; it'll be more plausible for this to happen than an all-new HGUC kit. Even if it's something we all want.
|Posted by: Turn A Gundam Sep 25 2006, 10:37 AM|
|Man, that HGUC Hazel 2 looks mi-tee-fine. Given the fact that the last 2 really did sport the state of the HG art, I'm sure this will do no different. Let's hope that they keep kranking out the AoZ stuff in HG, as well as the MSiA, because this model seems to prove that you can't go wrong with AoZ!|
|Posted by: Char Aznable Oct 10 2006, 10:56 AM|
| guys, Dalong has pic of the Hazel II up if your interested.
|Posted by: Bazookafied Oct 10 2006, 02:46 PM|
| Gentlemen... the TTT is growing in the HGUC Ranks.
The Titans will prevail!
|Posted by: Random_GM_Pilot Oct 10 2006, 11:57 PM|
|Man, I need to pick up a Hazel II. As far as TTT growing in the ranks; Hazels, anyway. I wish we'd get a TTT Gaplant or something. Not that I have anything against the Hazel HGUCs so far. They're great kits.|
|Posted by: Master P Rayer Oct 11 2006, 01:19 AM|
| If you mix parts from Hazel II with Hazel Custom, i think you can make Hazel First.
If you replace hazel custom's core with Hazel II and replace hazel custom's lower torso's front part (i don't know how to describe this T_T) with Hazel II.
|Posted by: Bazookafied Oct 11 2006, 03:54 PM|
| You're right about the combining... I'm sure some people will already be building those up!
About the Gaplant, remember that DHM has been pushing for other Gunpla other than the Hazels. But we know how much the HGUC lineup likes recolors and slight mods to existing kits. The Hazel serves as a great basis for the HGUC way. So does the Gaplant's existing HGUC, so keep your fingers crossed!
|Posted by: no3ljm Oct 19 2006, 07:12 AM|
| i just wished that they included the Quel head part for this kit.
but i guess, Bandai will release it soon as a repackaged kit. marketing strategy.
|Posted by: Project Phoenix Oct 20 2006, 02:39 PM|
| Damn, I still have second Advanced Hazel and Hazel Custom sitting on the workbench.
The Hazel II will be a fine addition but it will take more time to customized them.