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Kirbykun - May 26, 2006 05:45 PM (GMT)
Gaplant "Fiver" Core-Unit

Founded on 2Chan. On the Gaplant notably is the Drum-frame Arm replace
by the shield booster and the Long Blade Rifle attach to the crouch port
by a movable frame in an exact fashion as the Beam Smart Gun mount on the Ex-S Gundam.
( I got this feeling that the TR-6 might actually be that big guy
as toydreams suggest ;) )

On the left side is an explanation for the Fiverís Winch Unit. The text say
it compose of an Hrududu nose sensor, Winch Unit and the Grip.
The Winch Unit itself contain two small nozzle so the whole unit
can be operate by itself. But the Winch has an opening on the Hrududu
connecters so it can mount the shield booster as an extra protection
and thruster.

The picture at the bottom right is particularly interesting, Hrududu Winch Unit Mounted,
it says. The back of the Hrududu equip with the Winch Unit.
Thatís a Hambrabi references :lol: .

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Bazookafied - May 27, 2006 01:25 AM (GMT)
I KNEW those Shield Boosters were related to the Gaplant! Great Find! Do we have any pictures of it in its normal MS Form?

ninjascience - May 27, 2006 03:24 AM (GMT)
see also the Fiver thread with some pics of the model, those should be moved here me thinks.

also, the very bottom of the page cuts off a caption about the Hrududu w/ Winch unit, I can see the very edge of a hrududu wing unit there, perhaps this winch unit is used in the "smooth docking" we know will be involved in the TR-6?

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Master P Rayer - May 30, 2006 12:48 PM (GMT)
The lack of beam cannons on the tip of those shield boosters were compensated with a long blade rifle, nice variation! Maybe you can exchange the shield booster with the one from Advanced Hazel, or the missile launcher version from TR-5 Fiver.

hibiki tokai - May 30, 2006 03:49 PM (GMT)
where do these pages come from? I bought the latest issue of advance of zeta and there are almost no pages about the gaplant...

ninjascience - May 30, 2006 04:29 PM (GMT)
The Advance of Zeta books are just compilations of what is released every month in Dengeki Hobby Magazine.

Odin - June 13, 2006 03:38 PM (GMT)
This suit looks really good. Does anyone have scans of its pages in July's Dengenki?

http://www.hlj.com/product/MDWMAG0607

This was linked over in the Fiver thread and I was just curious if anyone can get larger images so we can get a better look.

Bazookafied - June 14, 2006 03:46 PM (GMT)
Whoa... never noticed that! Finally! The Fiver in its normal MS Mode! You're right, Odin, we need those images!

ninjascience - June 14, 2006 03:51 PM (GMT)
we only have what's in the first post in this thread. In a week or so though, I'll be getting that DHM from my local Kinokuniya and then we'll have nice crisp scans of both the new chunky Rosettes and the Fiver "Core Unit".

Bazookafied - June 15, 2006 03:22 PM (GMT)
If I recall correctly, there were wire-guided shields on the Fiver in its enhanced MA and MS form. Do the shields on this have the same use?

Master P Rayer - June 16, 2006 04:18 AM (GMT)
I think this one(i'm talking about the shield) is the normal one, i can't see any aditional parts resembling wire-guided launching device.

sandrum - June 17, 2006 02:11 AM (GMT)
I talked with ninjascience earlier in trying to get good shots, but I don't have a scanner. This is the best I could do. I guess NS will get us some good scans later, but in case there are those who would like to see a bit more...

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Bazookafied - June 17, 2006 04:15 AM (GMT)
Even without a scanner, those are pretty good! Thanks for the scans Sandrum!

Looks like they're explaining the connection between the Hrududu and the Fiver? Or maybe this is about the wire-guided shields? I know the TTT Gaplant doesn't have them on the sides, but perhaps this is explaining a Hrududu with wire guided tech.

ninjascience - June 17, 2006 05:13 AM (GMT)
sweetness! you rock man. I love the Fujioka illustration of the original
Gaplant. Looks like the winch unit on the Hrududu launch just the sensor nose? not sure what the point of that is.

Odin - June 18, 2006 01:09 AM (GMT)
Awesome pics, sandrum. The Gaplant is one of my favorite Zeta suits and I really like its AoZ design. Perhaps that's because the core unit doesn't really depart much from the suit's original design.

Does the core unit have any form of melee weapons or does its Long Blade Rifle fulfill both roles? I mean, since it's a test unit, and the unit is meant to be tested using the Fiver, I'd be inclined to think it is lacking beam sabers or something of the like. Does it say anything on any of the scanned pages?

Bazookafied - July 1, 2006 05:20 AM (GMT)
If memory serves me right, the sabers on the unmodified Gaplant are in its shields. However, the shields on our AoZ Gaplant are simply shield boosters with no weaponry or beam saber storage. I'm pretty sure the long blade rifle can accomplish this, but also think...

...how effective would beam sabers be in a dive bombing mission? This Fiver seems to be compeltely centered around that role, so things like beam sabers are kind of pointless to have.

Odin - July 2, 2006 10:37 PM (GMT)
Actually, the standard Gaplant's sabers are stored in its hips. The hips on this unit seem to be identical, which prompted my questioning its melee capabilities. I had thought that since design-wise the "recharge racks" were there, maybe they were put into use.

But I agree, a unit made primarily for dive-bombing, as well as being a test unit, would probably not carry beam sabers. In a successful mission, the Fiver shouldn't be on the battlefield long enough to engage in close combat.

But while my knowledge of aeroplanes is sketchy, I believe that most bombers, at least during the WWII era, were equipped with machineguns. Then again, I don't know if a parallel could really be made between a machinegun and a sword. I'm just trying to say that even a unit that focuses on one specific role should be somewhat capable of doing other things because in the field, anything could happen.

Zionista - August 3, 2006 07:47 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Bazookafied @ Jul 1 2006, 05:20 AM)
If memory serves me right, the sabers on the unmodified Gaplant are in its shields. However, the shields on our AoZ Gaplant are simply shield boosters with no weaponry or beam saber storage. I'm pretty sure the long blade rifle can accomplish this, but also think...

...how effective would beam sabers be in a dive bombing mission? This Fiver seems to be compeltely centered around that role, so things like beam sabers are kind of pointless to have.

There's always room for beam sabers! Small, don't take up much space, no need for ammo, and they can be popped out at a moment's notice! Which is good, because if beam sabers are required, it means close combat is, well...close. The nice thing about them is that you can turn a near-intersect vector with your target into a ripping beam-pass with the "hot knife through butter" if you get a good hit. The oopponent's only real counter is to parry or get out of the way. (Shooting back at you is Right Out, since a missed shot means a certain hit, and a direct hit could mean eating your explosion.0

IIRC in the 5.5 story shown us by ninjascience, the Asshimar and Fiver-Gaplant were in close proximity to each other. That could have turned into a slashing pass if either pilot had desired it, though neither one seems to have taken the opportunity.

ninjascience - August 16, 2006 06:38 PM (GMT)
New Gaplant image from the Sept. DHM scanned by Wavehawk.

Not much new info in the artwork itself, but there's some nice detail on the head. Just seeting the Fujioka version of the original Gaplant makes me wish he'd redraw all the UC MS!

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ninjascience - October 9, 2006 10:30 PM (GMT)
got some questions here:

Gaplant Profile on MAHQ...


Propulsion: rocket thrusters: 22000 kg, 7 x 12000 kg, 7 x 11000 kg; booster additional rocket engines: 19000 kg, 2 x 12000 kg, 2 x 8800 kg; vernier thrusters/apogee motors: 18
Performance: maximum thruster acceleration 1.94 G (mobile suit mode, mobile armor mode), 0.29 G (mobile armor mode with booster)
Fixed armaments: 2 x beam saber, power rated at 0.6 MW, stored in recharge racks in hip armor, hand-carried in use; 2 x beam rifle, power rated at 3.0 MW, mounted on arms

first question: of the thruster listed here: which ones are the original booster/beam gun units? If we could subtract those we could add the Shield Booster thrusters to get the stats for the AoZ version. Are there any other additional thrusters?
second question: the beam sabers are noted as mounted in the hips, so I assume the AoZ version has them too, but I can't tell from the lineart.


toysdream - October 9, 2006 11:02 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ninjascience @ Oct 9 2006, 03:30 PM)
first question: of the thruster listed here: which ones are the original booster/beam gun units? If we could subtract those we could add the Shield Booster thrusters to get the stats for the AoZ version. Are there any other additional thrusters?

The standard Gaplant has two thrusters in each shield, but it's not clear whether they're 11,000 or 12,000 kg thrusters. Since these thrusters are replaced by the single 22,000 kg thruster in each shield booster, the TR-5 version would either have the same total thrust as the standard Gaplant, or 4,000 kg less.

When it comes to the weight, though, all bets are off. We have no way of knowing how the weight of a Hazel-style shield booster compares to that of a standard Gaplant shield, and the TR-5 version also carries a long beam rifle since it doesn't have any other ranged weapons. Since we don't know its exact thruster output, and can't even guess at its weight, it's impossible for us to estimate its overall performance.

-- Mark

ninjascience - October 10, 2006 02:22 AM (GMT)
yeah, I knew the weight would remain a mystery because of the shield boosters.

If I were to guess, I'd say the original shields were 11,000, but that's not good enough for the wiki of course ;-)

Bazookafied - October 18, 2006 02:11 AM (GMT)
The only two major differences between the normal Gaplant and the AoZ Fiver are those sheilds and the head unit...

And we know that we can't really get solid data on the sturm shields, but do we have any data on the Hazel Head crest that is used on the Fiver's head unit?

no3ljm - October 19, 2006 06:40 AM (GMT)
i have some questions after i saw these prototype photos of HGUC Gaplant TR-5.
what's that thing on his shoulders? missile pods? and how come the front skirt armor
is different from the photo that ninjascience posted awhile ago?

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Bazookafied - October 19, 2006 02:11 PM (GMT)
Perhaps new systems that we haven't even seen in the lineart yet. Heck, we've got that Primrose Core coming from DK Hobby, but that hasn't even appeared in action yet.

ninjascience - October 19, 2006 04:22 PM (GMT)
yes! it is a new system! if you look closely at the lineart on the card, it matches the model :-) nice find no3ljm!!!

In addition to the pods on the shoulders and the skirt armor, I noticed that the original gaplant boosters are mounted rather than shield boosters.

The card also shows pics of the model in MA, but it's really hard to make out any details. I can also see the new shield/beam cannon unit from the primrose in one of the pics. Looks like it's mounted on the back.

ninjascience - October 19, 2006 04:46 PM (GMT)
found another pic:

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okay, woa, crazzy stuff here.

1. Look at the top ridge on those pods in the lineart. They are not the same. The pod fronts aren't the same either. The right-hand one looks like it opens, while the left doesn't. I bet this is a new version of the Hrududu.

2. Check out the bottom photos, second from the right. BIG HANDS?! WTF?

3. Top two photos, show the skirt armor additions converting to the primrose shield/cannon? The katakana says 're-arm'. Is it some kind of subarm?


hmmm, could this be a component of a larger MS that is the TR-6?

no3ljm - October 19, 2006 05:06 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ninjascience @ Oct 19 2006, 04:46 PM)
1. Look at the top ridge on those pods in the lineart.  They are not the same. The pod fronts aren't the same either.  The right-hand one looks like it opens, while the left doesn't.  I bet this is a new version of the Hrududu.

2. Check out the bottom photos, second from the right.  BIG HANDS?!  WTF?

3. Top two photos, show the skirt armor additions converting to the primrose shield/cannon?  The katakana says 're-arm'.  Is it some kind of subarm?

hmmm, could this be a component of a larger MS that is the TR-6?

saw that picture too before. i'm guessing based on the insets what's the feature on this kit. hehehe. :lol:

have some additional on your 3 inquiries:

1. yup, the right pod looks like it has some claw/teeth thing like the ones in Hrududu. well, atleast, we don't need to buy a seperate 'hrududu-kind' kit for this Gaplant. it's included already. good job, bandai & dengeki. ;)

2. hahahaha!!! you saw that too. the big hands ala Psycho-Gundam's sized hands. i think it's connected to the Gaplant's rear area of the shield. am i correct?

3. minor correction on the katakana. i think it's not 're-arm', it's 'rear armor'. my kanji-reading is bad, so i'm guessing based on what i read, the 'rear armor' has a 'flexing capability'. the katakana reads 'furekisiburu. ;)

and what's the TR-6 unit? thanks. :D


ninjascience - October 19, 2006 05:20 PM (GMT)
ah yes, ria ama = rear armor (I misread the ma as mu)

It does look like the hands are on the rear of the shields, but that just seems bizarre.

the TR-6 is a mystery unit that's been referred to but nobody has seen yet.

more info here: http://z7.invisionfree.com/Titans_Test_Tea...p?showtopic=685

no3ljm - October 19, 2006 05:30 PM (GMT)
here's some photos i posted in the Gunpla 2006 thread, ninjascience.
now, we can study the new Gaplant based on some close-up photos. hehehe. :lol:

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Char Aznable - October 20, 2006 12:06 AM (GMT)
Did anyone beside me notice the new uhh...gun? you see the normal one with the Hrududu add-ons lying on the table, but the suit, is carrying a different version.

Auriga - October 20, 2006 12:26 AM (GMT)
Yup, I noticed it. It seems they engineered a more stable design, as the one from the HRUDUDU is quite flimsy... I kinda like it, too.

If anything, it seems that this model has not only caused excitement, but it has also created very intriguing mysteries, some of which have already been pointed out. I'm mostly curious about those pods and the skirts...

Master P Rayer - October 20, 2006 11:27 AM (GMT)
This Fiver could be introduced after the creation of Primrose, that means AOZ still have a long way to go, we haven't seen TR-6 yet, but they keep introducing more MS.

About that new long blade rifle.... why they bother making another rifle while you can just use usual hazel beam rifle?

Bazookafied - October 20, 2006 02:34 PM (GMT)
Perhaps the Hazel's Rifle design isn't 'cutting' it anymore. Its been around for a long while and the Mk II Gundam is already outclassed in firepower and such. I can only imagine how behind the Hazel's rifle is.

no3ljm - October 20, 2006 04:19 PM (GMT)
i kinda like this rifle too. it has some kind of hand guard. :lol:

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Bazookafied - October 21, 2006 03:37 AM (GMT)
That rifle... it looks like a simple trigger module for the Blade Rifle we see on the Hrududu. However, it lacks an e-cap clip... it might just be the firing mechanism for MS Hand use instead of being mounted on the Hrududu itself... which makes sense to me.

If thats the case, I wonder if the mechanism itself has any firing power like the Hazel Rifle would... or if its specifically designed for this rifle alone?

Kirbykun - October 27, 2006 08:18 AM (GMT)
More pics from 2chan's.
Comparisons between the hazel's equipment and the new fiver
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ninjascience - October 27, 2006 03:28 PM (GMT)
nice find!

ohhhh, that new head is wicked looking. Between that and the Advanced Hazel, I think the TTT has some really evil looking MS.

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Bazookafied - October 27, 2006 03:56 PM (GMT)
Psycho Gundams arms... just like in that picture by the HGUC Gaplant Fiver we saw... and a different set of arms... like the Zeongs? They look like cannons too, but the arms look more like they're designed like the shield boosters.

Wow... this Fiver is quite the goodie-bag. Who knew?

ninjascience - October 27, 2006 05:52 PM (GMT)
couple more observations now that I've had a moment to really look at it.

That new head is like the Adv. Hazel visor in that is covers the existing head, I think.

The second big armed gaplant does indeed have some shield booster looking things as the arms. Each of those is mounted on a drum frame, which was used as a central mechism in the Dandelion, the Fiver and both Keehars. The wireguided hands on the lower guy looks pretty cool too.




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