Same Sex Marrage?

Umm, I know I'm not any help here, but it does say in Roman's that homosexuality is wrong. I don't know where in Roman's, but it does...


And, if it did say homosexuality was wrong in the Old Testiment, then isn't it against Christianity period? What's the difference between the New and Old Testiment? Rules are rules to the Bible.

Well, all I have to say towards that is if you're going to cite Leviticus, than you'd better be ready to pay all the consequences tied to that book. It is part of the Bible, although I do think many parts of the Old Testement are disregarded in today's world.

I do think that in some cases, yes, the Old Testement--although a part of the Bible, is "outdated" in some ways. Similar to how laws made during the Great Depression could be great at that time, but terrible during a period of economic prosperity. There are also quotes in the Bible (Old Testement AND New Testement) that say such things as:

Basically stating that a woman who is raped must marry her rapist.

Maybe some people are willing to live their lives in such a fashion, but myself? No, I'd rather not. Does that make me a bad person--someone who should go to hell because I'd rather not submit to a man (especially if he is, for example, abusive)? No, I think not. But hey, that's my opinion. :3

Could you please find me some form of quote? I'm sure you're right about there being some passage, but I do not recall there being one.

Wow. Just wow.

I am against any religion that has critical views against others. Any religion that supports common sense, freedom of choice and anything that promotes happiness is what I would stand for. Nothing less.

Any religion that looks down upon a gender or sexuality compared to another is utterly rediculous. Equality among any sex, race, sexuality or otherwise is the only thing to believe in. Anything less than that promotes hatred and I DO NOT believe that this \"Almighty God of Love\" would support ANY hatred over such INSIGNIFICANT things. Race nor sexuality changes who the person is which means it means NOTHING nor should it when looking at that person.

My family is Christian. I came from that background. Do I believe in what the majority believes? Hell no. I believe that \"God\" does stand for love. I don\'t believe that God hates people he \"created\" because they are attracted to the same sex. Otherwise this so-called \"God\" Is NOT perfect and isn\'t what people believe in. God would not promote hate. EVER. This idea that most people believe is what humanity twisted to suit themselves. What was written in the \"original\" bible is long gone, so I don\'t find credibility in what people read today one bit.

I am disgusted with people who hate others for such stupid things like race or sexuality. It\'s absolutely immature and I can\'t believe not all people are above that regardless of beliefs.

Anything that promotes some good in this world is the only thing to believe in.

If homosexuality is a nono in the bible, why is sexism good? Ja. Sugoi logic.

I agree with you 100%. Very well said. ^_^ It seems religion is the source of problems in this world. Plus, I don't understand how people can follow the bible word for word, when it has been censored, changed, rewritten, edited, whatever, in so many ways throughout the centuries. And it's been proven that the church has done so. Why are so many documents "missing" from the bible are still being uncovered today?

It's funny how a person's opinion can immediately change once they know a person is homosexual or bisexual. I've heard many people say about their gay or bi friend sometimes, "Well, I don't believe in it, but I still like him/her, or I respect him/her, it doesn't mean I have to agree with it..." That is such BULL. Whenever someone does something against one's own beliefs that person automatically chastises him or her and holds a grudge, it's human nature. All it takes is just a little feeling of resentment towards a person or group of people to spark something desacrating. It's what caused the Holocaust, it's what causes war, it's what caused Christians to slaughter millions of Pagans throughout history, just because one doesn't agree with another's belief.

People need to stop being so ignorant and learn to be more accepting and tolerant of others. Why are so many gay couples denied permission to adopt a child? Is it because society fears that the child will be raised in a so-called "unstable" environment and -- oh NO -- will turn out to be gay himself or herself? God forbid! What the hell's wrong with one less kid on the streets?

And, I'm sorry if I offend anyone, but I have many different beliefs as I have studied various religions... and I don't believe the bible is the utmost law, nor does it show the "righteous" way to live. Society has changed through time (and so has the bible) and so we can't remain stolid to this so-called book of law. Many parts of the bible has been disproved again and again. God could not have possibly written the bible, the world wasn't created in seven days, the world is older than what the bible says, and umm where do the dinosaurs fit in? I don't believe in anything that promotes hatred and punishment towards those who hold different beliefs than what's written in a book.

CG, DG, MT, and Aurora: I agree with all of you completely.

I'm not Christian, but I've read the Bible. I know I'm wandering into some touchy waters here, but the Bible promotes the idea that women should be subservient to men. I don't have a copy of the book with me so I can't provide a quote, but it's emphasized more heavily than homophobia. It's one of the first things in the Bible! It's in the Book of Genesis.

Anyway, I personally refuse to follow any religion that 1) requires that I sacrifice my logical, rational mind and 2) teaches the superiority or inferiority of any group of people. I don't want to offend anyone, but since Christianity does both... Don't get me wrong, I believe in God. Oh, wow, do I believe in God. But omnibenevolence and homophobia do NOT go hand in hand.

I don't see what's wrong with being gay anyway. My best friend, Sean, is gay, and he's no worse of a person than any Christian I know. He's better than a lot of them! He doesn't drink or smoke, he's accepting, he's SOOOOOOOOOOO kind, and he isn't judgemental. If he were to go to hell while other religious moderates who pick and choose which doctrines to follow were "saved," I wouldn't want to go to heaven, and I wouldn't want any God to exist if he was going to be that bigoted.

Slice: You said that gay marriage should stay illegal. I'm sorry, but this doesn't make any sense to me. Whether or not two men or two women can get married doesn't affect you at all. You may think it's "immoral" or whatever, but so is binge drinking. The government should have NO say in your personal, victimless choices, regardless of what is moral (especially since morality is subjective to the situation).

You know you want to jump on some dicks. :squinoa: