Believe?, Crisis of faith anyone?

Recent issues spanning the last couple months have seriously reconsider my beliefs.

My girlfriend is currently seven months pregnant and the doctors believe that the baby won't make it past the first week. Her heart is missing a dividing wall between the four chambers and the blood is mixing together. Along with one of the main arteries being thinner than it should this is one of the rarer forms of heart disease seen by the docs

The blood is getting to where it needs to right now but the bad stuff happens when she's born. Within hours she'll be whisked away to the Children's Hospital for surgery where her BEST odds have her at 70% survival. That's IF she makes it through the birth itself.

Why tell all this? Because I'm wondering 'Why?'.

Why would a god that supposedly loves everyone let something like this happen to an innocent? What POSSIBLE plan could he have for my little girl if she doesn't make it? If she DOES even?

Say she survives the first surgery, there's only going to be more of them. Surgeries, drugs, complications with her everyday life. What kind of life would that be?

People keep telling us to have faith, believe in God and things will work out, pray and it'll all be better.

BULL!

For the longest time, I've believed in the PERSON. The individual that has the ability to do good things. The physical beings that I interact with everyday. Not farfetched miracles and claims of seeing the Virgin Mary in the side of a moldy muffin.

I won't say that there's no god. That would be insulting to the millions of christians that control the population trying to force it down my throat. I'm talking to YOU mormons.

But I will say this. If my little girl, my baby-bear, if she makes it and survives and I can hold her without worrying about anything...then I'll believe in something more.

THAT will be a true miracle to me.

The universe is a giant place. A massive expanse so vast and infinite words fail to describe it. We, human earthlings, are tiny, almost insignificant creatures compared to the sheer size of it, the possibilities for millions of billions of trillions of species and civilizations rising and falling with a moment's notice completely endless, with each individual all wishing, praying, and worshiping to whatever Gods or God they believe, all of them in some way connected to the single, grand original God.......

Try imagining that for a second. The universe is HUGE. Incalculably so and infintely huge. And ONE BEING is IN CHARGE OF RUNNING THE ENTIRE THING. In the cosmic viewpoint of things, we're freakin' dust specks. With such a gigantic plate to manage, its easy to see that God rarely has the ability to hear and listen to every single thing every single individual wishes for and prays for.

I doubt God truly has an ultimate plan for something until he's already planned it out in advance LONG before. Your daughter's.........condition (I truly am sorry, I REALLY don't know how to describe it in any other way) is NOT one of them.

The only thing we can do now is pray. Pray that Fate is not bitchy enough to allow your daughter to suffer, pray that Fate will allow God to see and ultimately help her pull through this.

No mater what happens man you gotta believe in your kids desire to live. It's instinct that drives us to survive the most damaging things.

Even if it is hard and painful you gotta focus on other things and not dwell on the negative possibilities, just go with the good happy thoughts.

I think your kid'll be just fine and if not then you can punch me out, I mean I'm one room over from you...

Ud, even if God existed, we are the only civilization in the entire universe. No one has found life on other planets and even if we did, chances are it won't be intelligent life. In other words, it'll just be bacteria and nothing else. So there's really no excuse for God not to hear us.

As for you Alchy; I truly wish I can do or say something to make you feel better, but I can't. All I can say is this:

If she does make it and she has to deal with complications and medication, remember that she still has YOU. YOU and her MOTHER who-without a doubt-will fight tooth and nail to make sure their child lives as healthy as she can. Parents who love her no matter what. And if YOU keep your spirits up, so will she.

If you ever need to talk, I'm an IM away. If you want my phone number just so you can vent or just talk or both, I'll be happy to give it you.

Stay handsome.

I find that incredibly pessimistic. We haven't found any other sentient being in universe yet is because we do not have the level of technology to achieve it. Why would God ONLY have just ONE SINGLE species of beings evolved enough to know of his existence put on some seemingly random rock in the middle of no where?

I find that incredibly pessimistic. We haven't found any other sentient being in universe yet is because we do not have the level of technology to achieve it. Why would God ONLY have just ONE SINGLE species of beings evolved enough to know of his existence put on some seemingly random rock in the middle of no where?

Then color me pessimistic. And yes, we don't have the technology to find other life, but there has been no evidence to suggest there has been any kind of intelligent life out there. And even if there was, we have light years separating us. And if even they attempt to travel, they face the dangers of black holes, super-novas, gamma rays, comets, asteroids, and gravity.

So yes, I have a reason to be "pessimistic".

Also, why did he just create one? I dunno. We're the only species to know what the internet is. I'll admit I can't answer that question, but I can't answer it because I'm an atheist.

Ok. I don't know what kind of words of comfort to give someone who's child is potentially going to die. I can say however, that the ones you should put your faith in are the doctors. They are the ones who save lives. Not some all knowing skyman. I hope for the best for you and your child.
As for you, Gash, and your fucktarded theory that humans are the only intelligent life in the ENTIRE UNIVERSE I have only this to say. FUCK. TARDED. The universe is infinitely huge, as Ud said. I find it hard to believe that in the all of the uncountable star systems in all of the uncountable galaxies there isn't at least one other planet with the conditions for intelligent life to evolve.
Also, "God" doesn't exist. All religion is just an attempt by humans to make sense of that which isn't understood. We don't need it so much now since we have SCIENCE. Which can tell us that the Earth is more than a few thousand years old and that people can't rise from the dead after three days (zombies!).
The more we find out the more ridiculous religions seem. Silly, silly faerie tales.
Cold, unfeeling logic kicks the shit out of your beliefs.

If you're going to debate, show a little respect and don't resort to insults. Do that again and not only will I delete your post, I will ban you. Permanently.

I'm not in the fucking mood to be insulted.

I didn't respond to this until now because I didn't really know what to say. I mean, usually I'll spout off whatever crosses my mind first and have no second thoughts about it. Obviously, this is not the usual thread.

To be honest I still don't know what to say, but spontaneity rarely steers me wrong.

As for the theological, I have no right to comment. My beliefs are entrenched in my own existential dogma, because of this they're hard to describe, and in any case would be of no comfort to you.

It seems odd to me that I've never met you. You've never met me. Not face to face, person to person. Like everyone here we've met over the internet. We see each other through a glass, dimly. Hidden behind code, script, and relative anonymity. How much can I really say I know you, Alch?

Well, I can't say for sure how well I know the man reading this. I know how you write. I know some of your hobbies, and I know you have a sense of humor that meshes well with my own.

I don't know your family. I don't know your past. I don't know your partner and I'll likely never meet your beautiful daughter. It's a weird thing, the relationships we all share here. A few of us have met each other in person, but this was only in passing. Most likely not enough time to truly change the way we see one another.

The point I've digressed from is this: I've never met you in real life, but please believe I'm completely sincere when I say I want nothing more than for your daughter to live a happy, healthy life.

I don't know what good it might or might not do, but I'm praying, if for no other purpose than as an outward act of hope. I'm praying for you.

I'm praying for her.

And if I had to guess, I'd say I'm not alone.

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This makes me LOL because it's the equivalent of a baby throwing an oversized kickball at a battleship. 'nuff said, moving on, dead horses shant be beaten.



H, Regardless of how much or how little you know me, I can tell you this: More of me is written in my threads and stories than I show in real life. Skimming through my personal thread or looking at my Myspace page Shameless Self Promotion can tell you just about everything on the outside, inside, plus side and downside.

My own beliefs I've jokingly referred to as opportunism: When shit hits the fan I'll pray to everyone. As far as chrisianity and god I've left well enough alone but everyone keeps saying to 'have faith and believe'. I know they mean well. And from the forumites themselves I've gotten tons of support, from shoulders to cry on, faces to punch, even monetary donations that I politely turned down in favor of a stuffed bear.

I fully appreciate the prayer's H. A whole lot. But for now I'm sticking to my newfound belief in the individual. The people capable of making mistakes rather than an omnipotent being 'SAID' to be infallable, but yet gave us the platypus.

All I want is for my baby girl to come out of this alive and hopefully happy.