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Posted by: Tavascarow Jun 17 2010, 05:19 PM
Will all members who haven't already done so please send me their contact details (phone E-mail etc).
I'm trying to act as our group swarm coordinator & being able to contact you when I here of a swarm in your area is a priority.
Even if you yourself don't need the bees, we have/will have members who do/will.
SteveA can you stickify this one please.
Steve M.


Posted by: Beebass Jun 17 2010, 05:23 PM
QUOTE (Tavascarow @ Jun 17 2010, 05:19 PM)
Will all members who haven't already done so please send me their contact details (phone E-mail etc).
I'm trying to act as our group swarm coordinator & being able to contact you when I here of a swarm in your area is a priority.
Even if you yourself don't need the bees, we have/will have members who do/will.
SteveA can you stickify this one please.
Steve M.


Indeed I can...

I've also PM'd you my contact details.

Posted by: Tavascarow Jun 18 2010, 08:03 AM
This would also be the best place to post if you are still looking for bees.
As we expand as a group it's going to be hard for me to keep track of who have & haven't got bees.
It would be best for security reasons to send your contact details to me via PM.
& if any of you haven't got mine say so & I will forward them.

Posted by: Beebass Jul 23 2010, 10:05 AM
Posted on behalf of Pam at St. Tudy:

Pam's bees have swarmed and anyone needing a swarm or who can help her collect them can they contact Pam on:

07890629902 ASAP

(I'm posting this because Pam's PC is in the repairers)

Posted by: Janco2 Jul 23 2010, 02:20 PM
Just a quick post to say that we went and collected Pam's swarm, brought it back home and it is now hopefully on its way into an 8 bar nucleus hive for the time being. Whether they will abscond again is another matter!!

Jan and Colin

Posted by: Tavascarow Jul 24 2010, 05:40 AM
I'm happy to bet good money they don't abscond.
Bees prefer the smell of an old nest site over new.
& your nuc box will have traces of wax & propolis that will settle them.
If you are going to feed them watch them very carefully for robbing.
The main flows will be slowing down now, so your other colony will take advantage of some free sugar given the right opportunity.
Only fill the feeder late in the day when the bees are at home & be prepared to shut the entrance down to a bee space.
Good luck.


Posted by: Janco2 Jul 24 2010, 09:48 AM
Hopefully you are right Steve.
We have just been down there to check and put in some sugar syrup but they seem to be building on all bars and we couldn't get anything in under them without major disturbance so we have just left them to it.
Pity about the weather today!
There is some activity in and out of the entrance hole even in this damp and dull weather.

Posted by: Tavascarow Jul 24 2010, 05:05 PM
Make a feeder like Johns at St Tudy or JohnPs here on the
user posted image
Then you won't have to disturb them at all.

Posted by: Janco2 Jul 25 2010, 10:24 AM
Done that Steve for our nucleus colony in main hive.¤t=P1030033.jpg

However problem with the 8 bar nucleus hive we are using for the swarm is that there are so many bees and they seem to be making chains from every top bar! We did not want to thoroughly disturb them and thus scare them off.

Thank goodness weather is OK today and they seem to be busy out and about.

Posted by: Paul Jul 25 2010, 10:38 AM
Sounds that your new colony is healthy and doing what they should. Best left undisturbed for a while, let them get on with it. Feeder looks great, love the lid! I must 'get on' this week too and make a feeder. Hope we get good weather for a day or two.

Posted by: Janco2 Jul 25 2010, 10:39 AM
Colin has now come up with the idea of taping together 2 ice cream containers thus making a box which will contain a similar size tub complete with float so bees won't drown. There is already a sealed entrance hole on one end of nucleus hive which we can easily unseal and attach the box with an equivalent hole in the side for the bees to get through and access sugar syrup inside.

Hope you can understand that! Now he's off to make it and try it. smile.gif

Posted by: freebeeatst.tudy Aug 25 2010, 10:13 PM
Hello both!

Haven't been on here for ages, looks like you are looking after my swarm very well, how are they getting on?

Posted by: Janco2 Aug 26 2010, 07:09 PM
Hi Pam,

Yes they seem to be doing ok. We have been feeding them regularly (50:50 sugar syrup) and they do seem to be working on most of the 8 top bars in the nucleus hive.

As the weather has not been too good we haven't made a detailed inspection as yet. We are hoping to have a settled period of good weather so we can transport them to Nic's hive.

Hope you are both fine and your bees are building up for the winter.

Jan and Colin

Posted by: Janco2 Sep 5 2010, 12:43 PM
An update on the swarm we collected from Pam's bees on 23 July.
We transported the nucleus box to it's new home on 31 Aug.
Placed it in front of the main hive and on 4 Sep transferred all to the new hive.¤t=P1030146.jpg

If I've got the link right it should show a series of photos I took.
There was very little room left in the nuc box so we put another 3 top bars in when we transferred them. There were 2 pieces of broken comb in the bottom of the nuc box and they looked as if they had broken off some time back and were covered in bees so we simply moved the lot to the bottom of the new hive. Bees were not happy but within an hour the nuc box was almost clear and all seemed well.
We put more 50:50 sugar syrup in for them also as it is getting late in the season and we are concerned about whether they will have enough stored honey to survive the winter.
Any advice would be very welcome.


Posted by: Paul Sep 7 2010, 09:28 AM
Splendid series of photographs. Nice TBH too! I'm afraid I can't give any advice on feeding as I'm in the same situation too.
I'm not too happy about the level of stores in my TBH, in fact the level of honey stored in my hive has decreased over the last fortnight. As a result I put a feeder on last weekend.

Posted by: freebeeatst.tudy Apr 10 2011, 02:47 PM
Hello there!

Long time since I have been on, but could you please put me down on your swarm list for this year - my small amount of bees didn't survive the winter, and now have two TBH's, so can house two swarms.

Thanks, Pam

Posted by: Janco2 Apr 10 2011, 08:08 PM
So sorry to hear that you have lost your bees Pam.
I didn't notice this posting before I responded to the other one.

We also have 2 hives but only the one weak colony.
We would like another swarm but we are still hoping ours will make it.
If you need any help fetching a swarm please give us a ring (01208872606).
We were very grateful for all your help last year.

Posted by: Brookside May 6 2011, 10:59 AM

Add me to the list please. The monster top bar hive is in the top field now. laced with some fine smelling lemongrass oil, but no takers yet.
I'm thinking of making a couple of small trap hives with top bars in them. a sort of mini top bar (mini bar)


Posted by: Janco2 May 6 2011, 06:20 PM
Hi Mark,
We have found a mini top bar hive/nucleus or bait hive to be very useful.
We make them so that 8 top bars will fit in. Although no good for actually collecting a swarm in (too heavy), they are great for placing a swarm from a cardboard box in and the bees can stay in there until a new full size hive is made.

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