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Title: Sturdy Help Request
Description: Moving TBHs

Vee - July 22, 2010 10:49 AM (GMT)
I have laid plans to move 3 x 48" TBHs from Truro to New Mills (8 miles away) because my neighbour really does not like living next to bees.

Date: Saturday 31st July (weather permitting)
Time: 8 a.m.

When I made the 1st two hives they weighed 8 and 22kg Ė so Iíve converted the larger number to 48.5lbs and added 30lbs for honey + 5lbs for bees. Iíve no idea how much bees weigh but Iíve guessed and the total is: 5 STONE 13.5 LBS Ė vaguely half an adult or a sturdy sized child ! I suppose this equates to quarter of an adult each end...

A man with a van that lowers itself to the ground is coming... he says it's like a bus (but he will stay in the cab) - however, 2 of the hives are at the end of my garden and need to be (ever so carefully) carried to the front - the other has a mere 50' or so to go.

I shall tape them, cork them and strap them the night before.

Is there anyone who would care to turn up at this early hour to help out and/or view the procedure? Come a bit earlier and I can fortify you with coffee and croissants :)
All the best, Vini

Janco2 - July 22, 2010 02:50 PM (GMT)
Unfortunately Vini we will be on holiday in Brittany on that date.
Colin would have been keen to help.
Many years ago he moved a WBC hive and that had to be moved overnight as it was not in the best condition and it was difficult to keep the bees in!
He wrapped it up in a sheet, tied it and put it on a trailer as he was afraid to risk it in the car!
Our thoughts will be with you. Hopefully others from the group will be able to help you.

Jan and Colin

Paul - July 24, 2010 08:27 AM (GMT)
This sounds exciting and I'd love to help you, but alas I live near the Tamar which is a fair way away. However, if you don't get any offers in the next week and you're really stuck, I'll come on down.
My view is, corks can fall out, silver Gaffer tape won't budge. I'd be inclined to tape the holes (and practically anything else for that matter). I'm guessing you'll be up quite early on the day in question, therefore the bees shouldn't be out of bed. In this case, I'd leave taping the holes as late as possible.

Vee - July 25, 2010 04:11 PM (GMT)
Thanks so much for your thoughts Jan, Colin and Paul - and, good news - one of my 'conventional club' members is coming over to help.
I shall certainly be up at dawn to do the final 'sticking up' of absolutely everything that I can (which now includes the corks...) because these bees seems to be hideously early risers - but will also put a couple of hours in the night before - oooh soo anxiously (!!!) in case they won't go to bed - especially as lately they've been hanging around the entrance late into the night - or overnight when the weather is inclement.
All the best, Vini

Tavascarow - July 26, 2010 12:41 PM (GMT)
If I can get there I'm happy to help.
I will ask Joe & Mark in case they don't see this post.

Vee - July 31, 2010 04:33 AM (GMT)
Hi Steve,

I'm having an earlfy morning check cos I was so busy with taping etc yesterday that I quite forgot! So a big thank you if you do turn up - it would be great to have your invaluable advice to hand.

BUT, just in case you should arrive, my helper called last night to say his car has conked out - so I shall be collecting him between 7.10 and 8 a.m... - hence no-one at home to let you in. I'll tape a message to the front door as well.

All's gone well so far - all 3 hives corked at 9.30 last night and if there are stragglers I'll wrap a sheet round each hive to keep them on board.

Bye for now, V

Pam Free - August 1, 2010 09:20 AM (GMT)
Vini - sorry I wasn't there, my computer has been in and out of the repair place for over a week now, and only knew about your move when talked to Steve yesterday on the phone in the evening.

Hope it went well!


Vee - August 1, 2010 12:27 PM (GMT)
All dun!! With thanks for everyone who took an interest.

I taped up every nook and cranny I could find - then:
1) Shut them up at 9.30 the night before - needing to spray the few who were hanging around the entrance to drive them in from 'the rain'
2) tied a double-bed sheet round each hive to trap the few that had been excluded
3) roped the whole lot up

Then at 10 p.m. the night before - my driver called to say that it all had to happen on time and pronto as he had an emergency move to do - and my helper called to say that his car had broken down and he would be late. Nightmare! We solved it by my collecting my helper very early on the day.

The carrying caused me lots of puffing cos they were heavy - but was over in a twinkle. Some irate bees had found ways to escape but had been stopped by the sheets... After the corks were finally released (1 hole in case of wasps and/or robbing) there was a mini-rush which halted almost immediately as they went into 'reconnoitre mode' - lazily drifting in ascending circles to make sense of their new situation. If it stops raining I'll take a quick trip back today to see how they're doing.

On my return home there was 1 very stressed bee trying to find her home - and very cross with me. I do hope she's been accepted by the small hive left in the back garden.

All for now, Cheers, V

Janco2 - August 9, 2010 05:00 PM (GMT)
So pleased to see that all went well Vini with the move of your hives.
How are they doing?
It seems the weather has not been very good whilst we were away.

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