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Beebass - June 11, 2010 12:41 AM (GMT)
People seem (unsurprisingly) hacked off with Yahoo Groups and appear to want a new, more user-friendly home.

Will this do?

Steve A.

Edit: We can add photos to posts and everything :D

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Paul - June 11, 2010 10:17 PM (GMT)
Indeed it will do. Thanks for creating, it's much more user friendly.

Beebass - June 11, 2010 10:43 PM (GMT)
It's certainly much more welcoming, or it will be when people start to post. I can't believe that Yahoo Groups thing is still going, it's like the stuff we had to put up with in the late 80s...

I already run a forum for bass players so I thought it fell to me to do the necessary for us. Invision is really nice, powerful software and I can hardly believe that it's all free. The only 'price' we pay is having to put up with the adverts. The software and hosting fees for my other forum are quite expensive, certainly over Ł100 p.a.

JohnP - June 12, 2010 07:53 AM (GMT)
My name's John Payne and I live in Long Rock just outside Penzance.

I'm another newbee with accommodation ready but no tenants. After reading Phil Chandler's book I made a 500mm (internal) TBH to use up some offcuts from recently fitted floorboards and to practice, then a 1 metre one from new floorboards and a 250mm nuc from blockboard offcuts. I've fitted plastic mesh temporarily while waiting for stainless varroa mesh to arrive (lost on Parcel Force). After reading the chat on Biobees forum about top bars I have been unsure what to do for the best. For the main hive I've done wax-filled kerfs. What are your thoughts and experiences re straight or otherwise comb-building?

I've joined the WCBKA and applied to do the next course at Duchy, but although everyone is friendly I've already experienced the "attitude" to TBHs.

Onto the topic: I was going to suggest a Facebook group as being easy to set up and giving access control, photo uploads and so on but the forum looks great. Good job.


Will try to load images when back from bike ride

Beebass - June 12, 2010 12:18 PM (GMT)
Hi John!

That's a lovely part of the County...
Before I moved to Cornwall permanently I used to come and stay at Long Rock whenever I could. There was an old-fashioned pub called The Mounts Bay that used to do B&B. It was still there when I last drove through a couple of years ago although I don't know if Doreen and Steve still run the place.

I took the lazy man's route to TBH hives and bought a ready-made one from Cornwall Honey. I was going to make my own but knew I'd never finish it before my colony swarmed. Mine came with top bars that have a triangular moulding nailed to the underside, the tip of which has been dipped/painted with melted wax. So far it seems to be working perfectly and my swarm has built comb onto about 8-10 bars with no cross combing so far.

I'll try and take some pics later on in the day...


Janco2 - June 12, 2010 05:09 PM (GMT)
Hi all,

Just to say we have made it to this new forum but under a different name (was clnbrtltt).

Still waiting for our nuc from Heather Bell honey but have a 3 foot hive ready and waiting in the orchard. We are also making a 4 foot hive from cedar wood obtained from Klaudia. That's well on the way to completion.

We look forward to seeing everybody at the end of the month.

Jan and Colin

Beebass - June 12, 2010 06:22 PM (GMT)
Hi both!

I'm pretty sure it's your photos that I've "shamelessly pirated" elsewhere in the forum. I hope you don't mind...I just wanted to post some relevant content that wasn't mine.

I only got my first nuc last year and I thought the guy had forgotten me...I guess that the colonies are swarming round about now and they will want to feed them up for a bit and check that all's well before selling them on, I guess that could take a few weeks? Hope you get them soon :)

Janco2 - June 12, 2010 06:53 PM (GMT)
That's fine about the photos and reassuring about the nuc.

Our nuc should be ready June/July time but we think we'd better let them know we will be away for 10 days from 30 July. We would like to have them installed and settled by then. I would hate for them to abscond in our absence.

Beebass - June 12, 2010 07:22 PM (GMT)
[QUOTE=Janco2,Jun 12 2010, 06:53 PM]Our nuc should be ready June/July time but we think we'd better let them know we will be away for 10 days from 30 July. We would like to have them installed and settled by then. I would hate for them to abscond in our absence.[/QUOTE]

Robert's a good bloke, I bought my TBH from him and ordered some more stuff from him today. Be worth letting him know you will be away however...

I suspect if I'd badgered the guy I'd got my bees from I would have got mine a bit sooner but I hate hassling busy people.

If they arrive just before your holiday, it might be an idea to leave them in the nuc, sited where the proper hive will be and decant them on your return.

columbinegarden - June 12, 2010 08:47 PM (GMT)
Hi all,

I've just registered and am just checking it out.

Pam, if you are here yet, thanks for the details of the visit to your place. I'm looking forward to it, and yes, am very keen to see how others are using TBH's in preparation for populating mine. The photos on here are really good!


JohnP - June 12, 2010 09:44 PM (GMT)

Hmm, can't get image post to work: it just shows the link, not the image.

I bought Robert Bell's videos and beekeeping notes off eBay then one of his camo suits.

Opposite the Mount View is the Mexico Inn. We live three houses along, by the roundabout!

Beebass - June 12, 2010 10:02 PM (GMT)
The link doesn't work either...

Safari can’t open the page “” because Safari can’t find the server “”.

For an image to appear you need a URL that ends in .jpg

You must be almost next-door to the shop then :)

I used to stay in the Mounts Bay and eat in the Mexico, I'm going back to last century however. Is that old reclamation centre/scrapyard still down the road?

Hi Nic! :)

JohnP - June 12, 2010 10:08 PM (GMT)
Ah yes we're actually three doors down from the shop, not the Mexico, right next to the roundabout. Trader Gray of Shiver me Timbers died recently but his brother (I think) is carrying on the business. I tried to get some reclaimed boards from there but they were dearer than new and not that great.

Beebass - June 12, 2010 10:18 PM (GMT)
I spent a happy afternoon walking around Shiver me Timbers with my camera, but I got the same impression as you...dearer than new. :o

JohnP - June 12, 2010 10:30 PM (GMT)

Still no joy

Alan - June 12, 2010 10:34 PM (GMT)
This is so much easier on the eyes (thank you to the technofiles).
After much searching have managed to track down a full colony and national hive so I am quite happy to start here.
Process of building the TBH is taking me a lot longer than was expected so will probably end up colonising next spring, still, gives me plenty of time to get used to the bees in their "traditional" hive.
Lokking forward to meeting you all at the end of the month

Beebass - June 12, 2010 11:20 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JohnP @ Jun 12 2010, 10:30 PM)

Still no joy


I copied that link into my browser and it took me to your Photobucket page.
I then right-clicked on your picture and copied the image address which is:

We can then either add the [IMG] brackets manually or click on the 'IMG' button above and paste the link in.

Beebass - June 12, 2010 11:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Alan @ Jun 12 2010, 10:34 PM)
After much searching have managed to track down a full colony and national hive so I am quite happy to start here.
Process of building the TBH is taking me a lot longer than was expected so will probably end up colonising next spring, still, gives me plenty of time to get used to the bees in their "traditional" hive.

That's exactly what I ended up doing....

I started off with a National last year as I hadn't even heard of Top Bar hives. When they swarmed this year I caught them and put them straight into a TBH nuc.
I will probably keep at least one National hive although already I can see that TBH are much cheaper and easier to look after. The bees also seem to like them.
Hopefully over the winter I will be able to source some decent red cedar and build a couple more TBHs. :)

JohnP - June 13, 2010 12:04 PM (GMT)
Thankyou. I had been doing the right thing, using the IMG button, but picking up extraneous stuff by copying the whole URL. Now I know to right click the picture.

I'd figured that the activity around the nuc was scouts giving it the once over, but I hoped this heralded the arrival of a swarm. No such luck, all is quiet now.

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Tavascarow - June 13, 2010 01:35 PM (GMT)
Hi Folks.
Finally found my validation E-mail in my spam folder.
Good to see some of you already here & hopefully the others will be along shortly.
Steve M.


Beebass - June 13, 2010 02:38 PM (GMT)
Hi Steve!

Glad you made it :)

John, those are great hives, I presume you made them yourself?
You could easily sell those, I'd certainly buy one.

Glad you figured the photo thing out. You might need to resize them for posting on the internet though...I can't read half your text as it disappears off the end of my screen.

beetsar - June 13, 2010 08:08 PM (GMT)
Like the hives John are they based on the TBH plans from "The barefoot beekeeper"?

JohnP - June 13, 2010 09:29 PM (GMT)
Steve and Alan

Thanks for the comments re hives. I used Phil Chandler's (Barefoot Beekeeper) basic How To Build info with ideas from Robert Bell's (Heatherbell Honey) video and notes, plus extras of my own. I learned a lot from building them and will keep honing the design. I wouldn't use finger joints again for the roof frame: too much bother. I do think the ridged roof is worth the trouble though. I'm keen to see TBHs in action so as to incorporate the best ideas, so I'm going to try to make it to the St Tudy meeting. I have been a boat builder in the (distant) past, and have thought about making hives to sell, but it may need to be over the winter months.


Beebass - June 13, 2010 09:48 PM (GMT)
I was planning to build my own but ran out of time for this season and bought one from Heatherbell. I thought I'd learn from using it and be able to incorporate any lessons in my own version. I've already modified it by adding the middle entrance holes ala Phil Chandler and the extra blanking board. I've added spacers to the top bars and subsequently removed them and I'm sure I'll think of a few other adaptations I'd like to make.

I thought your finger joints were excellent, the sign or a real craftsman, but you're right, a bit OTT for a hive :). Gabled roof is a 'must' IMO, I wouldn't buy or build one with a flat roof.

You would certainly be able to sell a few hives of that quality IMO.

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