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Mozeart Posted on Jun 11 2010, 07:44 PM
 
QUOTE (Flouzemaker @ Jun 11 2010, 07:12 PM)
I really don't understand what the point of these bot posts is...

Uhm ... reverse Turing Test?
Flouzemaker Posted on Jun 11 2010, 07:12 PM
  I really don't understand what the point of these bot posts is...
Overly_Critical_Jue Posted on Jun 11 2010, 06:59 PM
  Go to hell.
Overly_Critical_Jue Posted on Mar 5 2010, 02:33 AM
 
QUOTE (tomnclick @ Mar 4 2010, 10:42 PM)
QUOTE (Flouzemaker @ Jan 6 2009, 08:59 AM)
Hi all

I'm new to this forum.. Hope to have nice time around here...

big respect !

Hi all

I'm new to this forum.. Hope to have nice time around here...

big respect !

Hey look! A plagiarizer!

No one ever respects one of those.
Flouzemaker Posted on Feb 8 2010, 04:10 PM
  Sonby is some kind of sick genius.
shapshift Posted on Feb 8 2010, 02:14 PM
 
QUOTE (RedRajah @ Feb 8 2010, 10:34 AM)
He'd have to leave the badgers behind too.

But...but...that's blasphemy, Katie! smile.gif



In all seriousness Sonby? This is the reason you rock. I should have realized that you'd not only have a handle on what I'm trying to achieve, but would also be able to put it into the kind of promo that would be believable coming from EW4's mouth. I appreciate the hand now, just like I did when Reed and Winston went round and round back in the UWF. smile.gif


RedRajah Posted on Feb 8 2010, 10:34 AM
  He'd have to leave the badgers behind too.
crimsonjoe Posted on Feb 8 2010, 10:15 AM
 
QUOTE (shapshift @ Feb 6 2010, 02:25 PM)
I have always wondered how I would justify a face run for Edmond Winston IV. It makes for interesting pondering, really.

Turning EW4 face? Sure, it can be done.

Look, rich people have been heroes in all sorts of media. Daddy Warbucks from Little Orphan Annie. Bruce Wayne. Hell, look at the charitable work done by Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, if you want real life examples.

EW4's heelness hasn't been because he's rich. It's because he's used his riches to change the rules- either by buying his way out of problems, paying off other people, or even buying the fed so that he could get away with anything.

That's the attitude that would need to change for EW4.

EW4 is a heel because he's a rich jerk. It's not the 'rich' part that needs to change for him to become a face.

Face turn promo for EW4? Piece of cake:

======================

"I was born with a silver spoon in my mouth. I know it- everyone here knows it. There isn't a problem I can't buy my way out of. But all of that money, all of the toys I can buy- that doesn't answer one question: When the crap hits the fan, can I stand on my own two feet? Can I really handle adversity? In short- am I a man?"

"So I'm entering that ring, because once the match starts, my money means nothing. My name means nothing. My connections mean nothing. What matters is this." EW4 taps his heart. "And when I stand in that ring against (heel X)... when I beat (heel X)... then I'll have proven it. To everyone else- and to myself."

======================
Mozeart Posted on Feb 8 2010, 08:54 AM
 
QUOTE (shapshift @ Feb 8 2010, 12:12 AM)
QUOTE (Overly_Critical_Jue @ Feb 6 2010, 06:55 PM)
Get a terminal illness. It works wonders for super pushes.

Damn it! It wouldn't be logical for a tobacco mogul to get cancer! It just would not make sense at all! :-P


I do admit I like the idea of the money rain, Moze. Even if I don't do that as a face turn I should have Winston do that when he's in a giving mood.


But seriously peeps...I'm legitimately curious (without having him get sick or poor) how you would turn EW4 face without compromising the rich-guy-who-likes-a-good-scrap gimmick. Is this something that you think can actually be done? Am I just causing facepalms by asking about this? Suckas gotta know.

Hrm. Well, here's an example.

I was handling William Craven in PVW under a mask. Major Damage was considered to be the scariest monster heel since Mecha Gojira, and boy oh man was he putting tons of people on the shelf. Vile, horrible, destructive heel, right?

Well, then the guy he was trying to really kill (Rick Marley) formed a heel stable, tore Damage's gas mask off, revealing the tattooed green face of William Craven!

From there it was repeated beatdowns to the point where people pitied Craven. He played to the crowd a little, but continued doing horrible things, just now, he did them to heels! Hell, he even hit WMI (the stable) with a chlorine gas attack! Just ... walking around in his gas mask, beating up suffocating men before having his accomplice (Tommy Ryder, another face) unlock the lockerroom door open. For this ... they were both cheered...

Oh, and in your case, just don't have EW4 discuss the tobacco thing until he turns face again. Yeah. smile.gif
Flouzemaker Posted on Feb 8 2010, 12:26 AM
  Well... when you think about it, any character that has been a top face (heck, even top heel) in a global fed for a good enough number of years are probably starting to be well off, some of them millionaires a few times over.
What they do is... they stop talking about money.
Except Rick Flair. Somehow, Rick Flair could still be a limousine-riding son of a gun and still be a face... when you're big enough of a legend, you can do anything.
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