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Daniel
Posted: Dec 18 2005, 02:32 AM


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A Game of Thrones (A song of ice and fire #1)

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A Clash of Kings (A song of ice and fire #2)

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I bought these hardcovers from amazon a week ago and they arrived the other day.

I thought i'd add a few words about the books.

Why to read: A song of ice and fire:

(1) YOU ARE TIRED OF FORMULAIC FANTASY: good lad beats the dark lord against impossible odds; boy is the epitome of good; he and all his friends never die even though they go through great dangers . . . the good and noble king; the beautiful princess who falls in love with the commoner boy even though their stations are drastically different . . . you get the idea. After reading this over and over, it gets old.

(2) YOU ARE TIRED OF ALL THE HEROES STAYING ALIVE EVEN THOUGH THEY ARE UNDER CONSTANT DANGER: this gets even worse where the author kills a main hero off but that person comes back later in the story. Or, a hero does die but magic brings him back.

This sometimes carries to minor characters where even they may not die, but most fantasy authors like to kill them off to show that some risked the adventure and perished.

(3) YOU ARE A MEDIEVAL HISTORY BUFF: this story was influenced by the WARS OF THE ROSES and THE HUNDRED YEARS WAR.

(4) YOU LOVE SERIOUS INTRIGUE WITHOUT STUPID OPPONENTS: lots of layering; lots of intrigue; lots of clever players in the game of thrones. Unlike other fantasy novels, one side, usually the villain, is stupid or not too bright.

(5) YOU ARE INTERESTED IN BIASED OPINIONS AND DIFFERENT TRUTHS: GRRM has set this up where each chapter has the title of one character and the whole chapter is through their viewpoint. Interesting tidbit is that you get their perception of events or truths. But, if you pay attention, someone else will mention a different angle of truth in the story that we rarely see in other novels. Lastly and most importantly, GRRM doesn't try to tell us which person is right in their perception. He purposelly leaves it vague so that we are kept guessing.

(6) LEGENDS: some of the most interesting characters are those who are long gone or dead. We never get the entire story but only bits and pieces; something that other fantasy authors could learn from to heighten suspense. Additionally, b/c the points of views are not congruent, we sometimes get different opinions.

(7) WORDPLAY: if you're big on metaphors and description, GRRM is your guy. Almost flawless flow.

(8) LOTS OF CONFLICT: all types, too; not just fighting but between characters through threats and intrigue.

(9) MULTILAYERED PLOTTING; SUB PLOTS GALORE: each character has their own separate storyline; especially as the story continues and everyone gets scattered. This is one of the reasons why each novel is between 700-900 pages.

(10) SUPERLATIVE VARIED CHARACTERS: not the typical archetypes that we are used to in most fantasy; some are gritty; few are totally evil or good; GRRM does a great job of changing our opinions of characters as the series progress. This is especially true of Jaime in book three.

(11) REALISTIC MEDIEVAL DIALOGUE: not to the point that we can't understand it but well done.

(12) HEAPS OF SYMOBLISM AND PROPHECY: if you're big on that.

(13) EXCELLENT MYSTERIES: very hard to figure out the culprits; GRRM must have read a lot of mystery novels.

(14) RICHLY TEXTURED FEMALE CHARACTERS: best male author on female characters I have read; realistic on how women think, too.

(15) LOW MAGIC WORLD: magic is low key; not over the top so heroes can't get out of jams with it.

Reasons not to:

(1) YOU LIKE YOUR MAIN CHARACTERS: GRRM does a good job of creating more likeable characters after a few die. But, if that isn't your style, you shouldn't be reading it. He kills off several, not just one, so be warned.

(2) DO NOT CARE FOR GRITTY GRAY CHARACTERS: if you like more white and gray characters, this may unsettle you. I suggest Feist or Goodkind or Dragonlance if you want a more straight forward story with strong archetypes.

(3) MULTIPLE POINTS OF VIEWS TURN YOU OFF: if you prefer that the POVS only go to a few characters, this might be confusing for you.

(4) SWEARING, SEX: there's a lot of it in this book just as there is in real life.

(5) YOU DEMAND CLOSURE AT THE END OF EVERY BOOK: this isn't the case for all stories in the series. Some are still going on; some have been resolved; others have been created and are moving on.

(6) IF YOU WANT A TARGET OR SOMEONE TO BLAME: this can be done to some extent but not as much. This is b/c he doesn't try to make anyone necessarily good or evil.

(7) ARCHETYPES: some readers like archetypal characters because it's comfortable; we like the good young hero (sort of like Pug in Feist's THE RIFTWAR SAGA); it's familiar and we sometimes like to pretend we're this upcoming, great hero. You wont' get much of this in GRRM with the exception of one or two characters.

(8) LENGTH: you don't want to get into a long fantasy epic series. In that case, look for shorters works as this is biiig.

(9) PATRIARCHY: men are most of the main characters with lots of power (one female exception). ....
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Posted: Dec 19 2005, 02:15 AM


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You always got a great library, Dan! wink.gif I want to check out R.A. Salvatore's "Promise of the Witch-King" and maybe finish up my Frank Herbert Dune stuff (if I can ever dig 'em out) happy.gif
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Posted: Jan 29 2006, 12:20 AM


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both are kick ass authors gramps.

Dune = IMO the best sci fi i've ever had the pleasure of enjoying, and i'm not even a sci fi fan.


Right now i've started Wheel of Time book 5

the fires of heaven.
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Posted: Feb 20 2006, 01:25 AM


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I am currently reading Still like with woodpecker by Tom Robbins, and let me tell you its amazeing!
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Posted: Feb 20 2006, 01:45 AM


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QUOTE (Stars In Her Eyes @ Feb 20 2006, 07:25 PM)
I am currently reading Still like with woodpecker by Tom Robbins, and let me tell you its amazeing!

what sorta story/book is it?
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Posted: Feb 26 2006, 05:25 AM


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Hey, guys!

Well, currently, I'm reading this:
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It's well-written, and entertaining.
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Posted: Feb 26 2006, 04:29 PM


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Posted: Mar 14 2006, 07:26 PM


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I'm rereading all of my Naruto books perv.gif
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Aoshikakashi
Posted: Apr 4 2006, 12:07 PM


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now I'm re-reading my Trigun books.
the manga is SO much better than the anime.

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Trigun (Vol. 1)
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Aoshikakashi
Posted: Apr 8 2006, 09:12 AM


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well, since my last post, I have read:

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Trigun (Vol. 2)

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Trigun Maximum (Vol. 1) [a continuation of the Trigun books]

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Trigun Maximum (Vol. 2)

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Trigun Maximum (Vol. 3)

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Trigun Maximum (Vol. 4)

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Trigun Maximum (Vol. 5)

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Posted: May 16 2006, 04:28 AM


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Finished the "Time to kill" and after that started Agatha Christie's book, about some ABC murders.
Finished that too. unsure.gif

Now reading a diary by a finnish humorist. It's about the first year with his first child.
This far it's been great. laugh.gif

My wife woke me up in the middle of the night, telling that our son wants breast again. No he doesn't, he's asleep. And even if he wasn't, it surely wouldn't be my breast he'd want. I get back to sleep.

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Aoshikakashi
Posted: Aug 5 2007, 09:15 PM


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Harry Potter And The Chamber of Secrets
cheeky-smiley-012.gif figured I had to read those books at some point in my life
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Another lost soul. mellow.gif
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