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 Reality Appeal II, As it says
Akiiryu
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 03:31 PM


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Guys, I have noticed that we've started sneaking back into our old habit of uber weapons developments...can we tone things down a bit?
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Italgria
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 03:36 PM


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What do you refer as uber weapons developments? If you are refering to planes like i have published today I can tell you that it is a fact that the US government is experimenting with this kind of planes in co-operation with Boeing since 1996
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Suverina
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 03:37 PM


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My airplane have been under development by Dassualt and SAAB since 99'.
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Akiiryu
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 04:42 PM


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I wasn't referring to anyone in particular, just making a general statement. This region has a habit of pulling uber weapons and large militaries out of thin air.
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Fleet Admiral Connor Grey
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 04:46 PM


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Maybe, but all I every said was I had a large navy. I do not use nuclear weapons (nor ever threaten them. Actually, I never make quite clear whether I have them or not, I don't think), and I do not have a large standing army or air force.

I haven't really noticed any uber weapons recently (no large nuclear threats, or massive missile attack, or anything like that). Just large military powers. Perhaps that is where we, as a region, should tone it down.
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Adaptus
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 04:53 PM


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I have a small nuclear threat to the north of my natiosn with my phalkland threats thing, but so far it's only roumers and sightings. In the end there are no actual nuclear warheads. Incase your woundering.
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Akiiryu
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 04:58 PM


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That, FACG, is my exact point.
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Fleet Admiral Connor Grey
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 05:07 PM


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QUOTE (Akiiryu @ Jul 27 2006, 04:58 PM)
That, FACG, is my exact point.

I know. Perhaps we can all agree then, not to try and do this so much. Perhaps we can all give warnings of slight godmodding then if people do this. I agree, it starts to get a little out of hand when thousands of men are all of a sudden deployed in the field....
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orioni
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 05:16 PM


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Alright, I admit my company may be researching some minor future-tech. Once in a while I notice something new, and if I think it fits my nation then I say I'm either producing or developing it.

But that doesn't mean I'm actually going to use it on a large scale. I don't see anyone attacking someone else with a massive fleet of stealth ships, or filling the sky with mach-10 superfighters.

I think there is a little bit of a problem with what some of the players want, and what they are actually doing/using.
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Social Alliance of Mongol-Swedes
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 10:07 PM


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When you want to set a standard for Air Mobility considerations when deploying ground troops by airlift, let me know.
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Italgria
Posted: Jul 27 2006, 10:35 PM


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Well i cant really see any nation which is creating "uber weapons" as Aki says but the standards should maybe be defined more so that nations cannot move in the "gray zone" so easily.
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Akiiryu
Posted: Jul 28 2006, 12:40 AM


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"Uber weapons" was a generalisation referring to uber moder weapons just appearing, massive armies transporting to battle fields on the other side of the globe and such.

M-S, fire away!
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Fleet Admiral Connor Grey
Posted: Jul 28 2006, 02:32 AM


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Italgria, in the past, there have been some cases of "uber weapons" buildups that have all of a sudden come out and the scale of things getting drastically blown up.

I hope no one then minds my next RP. I was thinking of some future-tech. It was supposed to be a leak of a project, and then I'm supposed to work out some of the problems. One of which is that it is highly unrealistic to carry out on any huge scale. Like Orioni said...
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Vocenae
Posted: Jul 28 2006, 03:05 AM


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The only really super modern weapon I have is this and it's not really all that futuristic, just big.

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It's a large scale transport/bomber, but all its really doing right now is sitting in hanger near the Accran border. And before anyone asks, I have mentioned that it was under development and that I had Ide Jiman assitance in making it.

The only other thing that you might consider too future tech is the Wyvern fighter I've mentioned in a few threads, really nothing more than a ultra streamlined fighter craft.

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This post has been edited by Vocenae on Jul 28 2006, 03:51 AM
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Tamurin
Posted: Jul 28 2006, 09:34 AM


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Well, my guess would be that Aki didn't only think about super-tech like the mentioned mach-10-fighters but the amount of nations that have a better military than the current superpower of this planet: The United States of America.

As far as I know, only a tiny number of F/A-22s have been deployed within the USAF. The F-35 is still not ready and only 21 or so B-2 bombers have been built. The number of F-117 is also not very high, deployment of troops take months and I guess that there are less than 20 supercarriers operational on this planet.

If we look at the nations in our region, many outnumber and outperform the US. Fleets of F/A-22s and F-35s dominate the sky, dozens of supercarriers are swimming on our oceans and extreme numbers of troops are deployed within days.

I don't have a problem with future tech, I really don't. The Tamurin Luftwaffe has a couple of X-45 unmanned bombers in service which aren't operational in the real world either. But the point is, I only have a couple of them, like twenty or so - not several dozens or hundrets of them, and they have weaknesses because they're so new.

I urge everybody to step on the breaks regarding such modern/post-modern technology. Limit the use; decrease the numbers; add problems that come with new technology, weaknesses; specialize the use for one purpose and decrease the effectiveness for another (for example: My X-45s have limited range and are only useful for tactical bombardment with conventional weapons; they can't be used for nuclear weapons or for strategic bombardement).
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