Idea for a short but exciting RP in the northwest.

The setting of this story:
Ravenhelm is a small nation, ruled by terrorists who pirate the Eebay.
Tagmatium is a large nation that just finished a channel.

Ravenhelm smells an opportunity and tries to gain control of the channel, Panama style.
Nobody in the northwest is happy with this.
Ravenhelm gets kicked out of the channel area first.
Next, the terrorists in Ravenhelm are destroyed.
Peace returns to the nation, they return to inward politics, and are removed from the map.

The end.

Players needed:
Ravenhelm (I'll hack his account, it's a piece of cake)
Tagmatium
Suverina
The Aristocratic Confederation
Akiiryu
Any other NW nation who wants some target practive.

Will it happen:
Vote above.

Why am I put on the same lin as the aristocracy? I want my own line!!!!

Well, I am not sure. Akiiryu sure as hell isn't going to allow other nations militaries so damn close to it borders. Moreover, it could steam roll Ravenhelm quite easily. That said, if the otherwant to throw Ravenhelm out of the canal area they are welcome to. Just don't expect Akiiryu to allo you to get close to its borders.

More boardly, i wonder if it is just better to remove Ravenhelm from the map and more on. Like we have before with "trouble" players who have been banned.

What's this? An invitiation to thrash some terrorists about? I'm all in! Question: How well developed is the Ravenhelm military?

It would be fairly easy to simply remove his nation. Just three clicks in Photoshops and it's as if he never existed.

I thought it could be a nice idea to get some activity in the nortwest. This RP doesn't have to take long. You could even have some (initial) mercy on the poor people of Ravenhelm. They're quite convincing, you know.



@ Akiiryu: Yes you could. But that would kill all the non-terrorists as well. How about: they pirate boats in the Eebay and get shot/bombed by your navy from time to time. Then they attack the channel with a fleet of their small boats. That means most terrorists are in the channel area, so you'd have to get there to attack them. When defeated, they return to the main nation, where they receive the final blow. (Somehow this reminds me of one of those medieval stories..)

@ The Aristocratic Confederation: Imagine BananaRepublic meets Taliban and you'd have a pretty good idea. No real HQ, moving around all the time. Some local support, but mostly ignored. They have more then enough money though.

This will be a piece a' cake! Lessee, After the battle is won, could I get a naval base on his coast, or control of a port?

Aki, Think of it like Korea and your China, the other people attack ravenhelm and marches inwards and you get mad because of people closing in on you and you attack Ravenhelm...

Ha ha, great idea. I am a northwest nation (I am the northwest nation ) I always enjoy target practice.

Oh, what a difficult choice. I was going to RP this piece of mine getting caught, but I might incorporate it here then. If we go ahead with this, then I will introduce this into part of this. Don't worry, what it is may sound at first like I've done some research too fast, creating something too powerful, but it is hardly that. It'll be a test run. Just wait and see.

Suverina's idea actually makes sense. The sooner Ravenhelm would be gone, the faster peopel would be away from you, Akiiryu.

And voila we have a korea situation.

There is South-West Ravenhelm. LT-controlled was mostly occupied by me and Tag. Used by the LT to have a firmer grip on the alliance.
And there is Nort-East Ravenhelm. alliance-controlled was occupied by Aki, he uses it as a nice buffert zone.



And there is the small blue zone. deltannian controlled, they occupied it and kept it. although in the peace negotiation they didn't got it but refused to move. and there still there.

So this was one nice possible scenario.

This post has been edited by Suverina on Jul 25 2006, 09:23 PM

I am very much against this RP, although below I do provide one possible way i could see it working. The following comments are best on the IC nature of Akiiryu, those who have seen me RP Akiiryu will know I am speaking truthfully and not simply looking for excuses:

1) As I said. With Akiiryu it will be all or nothing. There is no way in sweet hell Akiiryu is going to agree to allow LT members into Ravenhelm, for the exact reason Suv has said. Christ! Akiiryu already has Adpt to the north, it is not about to have its southern border also fulled by LT members. Any attempt by LT members to land would lead to a regional war as Akiiryu would call on it allies for assistance, leading the the LT members to do the same thing. "Neutral" countries attempting to land, such as Aristo and Delt, would be meet with a similar reaction. I REALLY don't want to rp a regional war at the moment.
Akiiryu, is usually one of the most, if not the most, careful of the military powers in the region...war is something it considers the final option - despite its massive potential for flattening most countries in the region without raising much of a sweat. The fact I stress that Akiiryu would pour all of its might into stopping other nations from landing should indicate how important this issue is to Akiiryu. Simply put, Akiiryu can deal with Ravenhelm alone and as such it would not need or want otherside interference. Basically, Akiiryu considers Ravenhelm in its sphere of influence and won't let anyone else near the damned place.

2) You might also note the Akiiryu already has a large military force on Ravenhelm's border (check the news threads)...by the time other nations could get troops to Ravenhelm it would be all over and they would be forced to make an opposed landing.

3)The only way I can see this rp working, and not distintergrating into a regional war, would be if the other players' nations were hands off in a military sense. Run your politics, your news casts, your hang ringing liberals and such, but don't get militarily involved. If you're looking for guidance take a look at some of Tag's rps with his news crews, they're great and add wonderful colour. Indeed an rp like this would probably be better than our usual "bomb fests" as it would make it far more interesting. It would also make a nice change from the region of Europa constantly sitting on the brink of regional war because every one only wants to rp their "bigger and better" militaries. Why not try and develop some other rp skills?

I'm in for this. I can use it to add to the demies of my prime minister. We're strongly allied to tagmatium, so an attack on their cannal would be seen as an attack on the north-west of Europa, by deneing access to the south.

My PM, could get into some sort of political doplomacy thing, to get most of the bigger, un-allied nations in the region to work together on this. However, it fails for her, and shes hated by the populance even more.

But I must say, it would be hard not to alow this to be a non-military RP due to the fact terrorists dont like to co-oporate. What we could do is thow in some hostage situations, and keep the military stuff down to just, air forces, and special forces. to keep it at a low. How about that?

Come on guys! Can't we do one rp without is descending into another bomb fest/regional standoff? I repeat once more that Akiiryu is not going to allow other nations to get involved in this, unless prehaps they are special forces units working under the control/in cooperation with the Akiiryan military. Defeating the terrorists around the Canal would be fine, landing in Ravenhelm would not. Once more, remember the Akiiryan Army is going to be well into Ravenhelm before most of your nations can even react, while its navy and airforce, operating close to home, have a distinct advantage when attempting to stop landings. I don't want to rp a regional war/ a close call here. Let's expand our rp and mental borders a little eh?

As to your question Adpt, have TV crews, NGOs, and Missionaries in Ravenehelm. Have your talk shows/politicos condemn or support Akiiryu in its "liberation" of the country. Have hostages taken and Akiiryu rescue them (puts pressure on Akiiryu to do the right thing the right way). or your government's pay the terrorists off.

So Aki let me see.

If you expand to a region and an already existing nation wants to have their second, third our fourth plot next to yours you would declare war on them because its a LT member? Personally withouth attacking you, what may cause a regional war is actually your attitude to neighbouring nations.

Ok aki. I'm not attacking you here, but. Have you not though about nations kicking up a fuss about you entering Ravenhelm, and reacting in the same way you will if an LT nations tried to liberate it?

Have you not thought og Alliance and LT coporation as well? Regional war can be turned on it's head. For instance, why does the LT and Alliance hate eachother? Adaptus for one, looks at all Alliance members and nutral as a nations which is not in any alliance. Adaptus has no grudge with Akiiryu. True the same can not be said with other nations, but if one LT natian can cooporate then, whats say others will not, for the betterment of a dissressed nations? It could be a turning point.

But back to the RP, and how it's played out. I say, terrorists take over Tagmatiums cannal. Where if you want a war or military RP, your stuff can take place there. With the remainder of Ravenhelm. I could say, a multi-national diplomatic effort could be under taken. Lead by say me PM, in her attempt to unite the alliances. However it fails, and if it's ok, I would like to have terrorists within Revenhelm take several Adapton envoys hostage, which results in a failed rescue oporation, with most hostages killed. But at the same time as the diplomatic attempt starts to fail, someone gets frustrated, and invades ravenhelm, in an attempt to liberate it.

How about that?

Aki, you just can't claim territories that aren't your as yours. If Ravenhelm is an independent state you can't stop me from invading them if I am at war with them. You act like you were the ruler of entire N/W Europa. - I do belive that you don't see yourself as ruler of the entire N/W Europe though..

Ravenhelm was NEVER been a a puppet of akiiryu so you don't act like you own it. This scenario is based on that ravenhelm is an independent nation.