Voyager....

is on Five on Saturday at 7.10. Since the first episode is Caretaker I assume that they will be showing at least the first season. So if Five could get the rights, why couldn't the Beeb.

While Voyager is my least favourite incarnation at least it's good to see some Trek on the telly.

Was it ever an issue of them not being able to get the rights Tony ?

I just assumed that they didn't want to. They held repeat rights for a fair while without ever getting around to reshowing them.

Definitely agree with the sentiment though, just to have some Trek on normal telly at the moment is an achievment !!

Dunno James. I seem to remember that the Beeb said they didn't have the rights to DS9 so I assumed the same was true for Voyager.

Thanks for not beating us yesterday btw

Seeing as I have nothing better to do on a Saturday evening I am quite looking forward to seeing them again. It will be a bit peculiar if they only show season one like they did with Buffy.

Maybe I am shallow but I feel the show only came into its own with 7 of 9. She brought a fine mixture of sex appeal and deadpan humour into the mix. sk

Someone up there likes you lot Tony, Idiakez is usually lethal from setplays

Couldn't disgree more - Voyager was rather good until they bought the Borg and Seven of Nine in - then they slowly took over the show, which then proceeded to disappear up it's own backside...

T&A of 9 ruined a show, that despite the first few years, could have been salvaged, with some creativity and originality.

It's a shame they went down the route of aiming for hte lowest common denominator

You guys are kidding right!? How can you ruin a piece of

At least when 7 o'9 was in it, she had quite a good relationship with the doctor, and the doctor was the only thing in that show that wasn't utterly dire.

I'll agree with the EMH being the best thing in the show. By a long, long way. 7 of 9's introduction however inspired the writers to move beyond scraping the bottom of the barrell and actually explore what lay beneath it.

Que the sloppy writing that became synonymous with Voyager S3 onwards and for the duration of Enterprise. Can't be bothered to write plot ? Just stick 7 in the scene flaunting herself in that catsuit, people'll love it

Awful show, pretty awful character. Credit to Jeri Ryan for even attempting to w**k under those conditions.

I was quite happy for Seven to come into the show. At least she was a light year better thab Kes. A woman so sugary that my teeth started to rot every time she was on screen. Bloody Mary Poppins in space.


As James says, the problem wasn't with the character, it was with the truly terrible writing. Voyager became the Captain, The EMH and the Seven show.

Remind me again, who was the first officer, or the helsman?

The other thing about Kes is wasn't she supposed to be about eight. Was Neelix the Gary Glitter of the delta quadrant?

A couple of friends of mine were saying yesterday how Voyager was undoubtedly the best Trek. Obviously I was trying my best to disassociate myself from them.

Trouble was, later on I was thinking about which Treks were better than others and the thought entered by head that Voyager was better than TOS. I feel dirty now

I will be the first to admit there were a lot of problems with Voyager but there were some marvellous moments weren't there? I have just been looking at the StarTrek website and most of the memorable episodes seemed to be in the later seasons as far as I could tell. sk

look like charmed is not bringing enough audience for C5 .... how many seasons had voyager?

You'll never get anywhere in life with friends like that

Voyager had seven seasons and three previous version to draw on. With that behind it it should have outshone TOS by a mile. I'm trying to think of good Voyager eps. Scorpion springs to mind and The Year of Living Dangerously (depsite the BRB ending) and that's it. Then again, I've only seen most of Voyager once so time has dulled the memory. Sadly not enough for me to forget the slug episode.

seven season will C5 show two episodes each time

ive never really been a fan of ST:Voyager, however i have started watching it as reseach for slagging stuff off on this site..

im not even sure what season im watching on sky one A.T.M.

but i have to say what i have seen so far, is not exactly 'inspiering' more like sleep inducing, however i am willing to give it a chance, but it does seem to be doing by design, what T.N.G. did by accident... using sex to sell itself.

as a hetrosexual male over the age of 12, i find 7 of 9 great eye candy, as a star trek fan, the character is flawed, predictable, boring, and totally unbeliveable...as for the women of voyager as a whole they exhibit all the sexual desire of of a roll of toilet paper, and all the warmth of a service station chip...(copyright doug naylor productions)

TNG on the other hand, well tasha yar & data? ensign ro larin & riker? doctor crusher & capt picard, and that ghost bloke & that simbiant lifeform? dianna trois & riker? all stories with depth, history and characters we could belive... all gaging for it... & not a cat suit in sight =GREAT TV

even the pit parts eg: nurse ogawa, minuet, gabrielle , bronwyn gail robinson, lt selar/k'ehleyr , sonia gomez , brenna o'dell, leah brahms, keiko ishikawa(o'brien)why?, sela, amanda rodgers, kamala, robin lefler, and of course, the one THE ONLY....


VASH

none of them walking round in 'notice me' clothes, if 7 of 9 is honest when she says 'i do not require or desire physical relations' then why the hell is she so keen to have the entire ship's male compliment walking around in a permanant state of arousal? talk about a d**k teaser!

and as i have only just started with ST.V. im not sure who this kes person is, but i hope its not a flight back to the only scene in tng that worried and disturbed me, it was the scene in the episode 'little rascals' and it has a moment between Miles (WTF is my emmey) O'brien, and his (now 12 year old wife) keiko...stay with this ...it gets worse.... and their 4 year old daughter.... you know what just watch it, but dont say i didnt warn you....

Having started the thread, guess which prat forgot all about it

Sounds like a 'win' to me Tony

I can't really comment on DS9 but I thought Voyager was infinitely better than The Next Generation. How anyone can stand the pomposity of the latter for more than 5 seconds is beyond me.

Having said that the doctor in Voyager did annoy me a lot.