I've noticed no one seems to be coming on the stargate boards much and i've got bored, so i started a poll.

Do you think SG-1 S9 is better than Atlantis S2? If so, why?

Ems :)

I'm enjoying Atlantis more this season. Not that SG1's bad. What with the introduction of Browder, Bridges and Doig it's gotten a lease of new life in itself. The Ori are making for a pretty interesting season arc as well.

Atlantis this year, for me, has really started to come into it's own. The episodes are just better than last year. The character writing's improved, and there's less dependence this year on McKay and Shepard, although both are prominent, it's not as detrimental to the rest as it was last year. Last season seemed to be some really good episodes, and some really poor episodes. The consistency this year has been a lot better. Mitch Pileggi's really helped as well, and so has the Daedelus.

Being a massive Stargate fan and only getting Sky recently.....therefore having missed SG SG-1 season 8 (damn channel 4 scheduling before I noticed it had come back I'd missed 6 episodes!) I thought I would wait for the DVDs. And Season 8 (whole boxset, I'm not paying £20 for 4 epsiodes! - £120 a season!) seems to be taking forever to come out.

I caught Atlantis on five....but low and behold sky started showing s2 while s1 was on five so I missed most of that as well and again no sign of DVDs!

But I have heard about Browder and I'm intruiged......and the show could have a new lease of life....but Stargate SG-1 has always been brilliant....just have Daniel Jackson in it and I'm glued...he is one of the most interesting characters in Sci-Fi....he actually gives a Sh*t about of aliens and their cultures, and I hope that with the absence of O'Neill the hilarious banter doesn't leave the show. Hopefully Mitchell can have the same relationship with Jackson in military vs morality.

I've not got round to Atlantis S2 yet, but what I've seen of SG-1 has really disappointed me....

I'm enjoying both seasons :thumbsup: I had a pretty poor opinion of Atlantis from the first season but I am so glad a gave it another try for the second. The quality has improved vastly.

I'm looking forward to both each week so it's difficult to choose although SG-1 does have Ben :thumbsup:

I've seen all of SGA S2, but not finished all of SG1 S9 yet, so I think I'll reserve judgement. I think overall I'm enjoyinh SG1 a little more though, so unless they have a crappy finale, it'll probably be them.

Ditto :lol:

I can't wait to meet Michael Shanks and Chris Judge on Saturday :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

I think I will have to go with Stargate Atlantis as well. After the initial excitement of Ben Browder pepping up the old show Stargate has steadily gone downhill. I think Ben is the perfect replacement for RDA showing he can do comedy, action and the all-American military guy. I just think he has been under-used and to be honest the story regarding the Ori has been less than gripping.

Atlantis in the last few weeks has been a lot weaker but on a week-by-week basis has me looking forward to the episodes a lot more than SG1. I thought bringing in the new character Ronin was a very good idea, so too was the Daedalus as it gave a lot more story opportunities.

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Why didn't you just use a video recorder and save the episodes until Channel 5 finished the first season? :unsure: That's how I got round it anyway. :)

It'll be interesting on SG1 next year. SG1 this year, for me, was at it's best when Vala formed part of the group. I was actually disappointed when Carter returned. With Vala becoming a regular next season it bodes well.

I think the Ori are just a story that you either like or don't. I've always enjoyed stories around the Ancients, and the latest Ori arc is just an extension of that.

Touching on S-F's post above, absolutely agree re Ronin, can't believe I forgot to mention him.

and from a girl's point of view, Ronan has been a very good addition :wub: :lol:

Both seasons have been great so far, but saying that, SG1 has just pipped Atlantis for me.

Both shows have tried to integrate new characters into the "families" with varying degrees of success.
Browder has just clicked into place, as though he had always been there. almost as though Richard Been Whatsisface had never existed.
Lexa Doig is a revelation, who knew she could act :blink:

The Character of Ronin on the other hand. I don't feel he's had enough development (thus far, it could change I suppose) so I just don't feel the connection to his character.

I think I'm probably alone in feeling that the introduction of the new ZPM and the ship, both of which can be used to go home, changes the dynamic a little too much. The whole idea in the first season was that they were out there alone, with no possible way home. That's what appealed to me about the show.

Oh yeah, and SG1 can still pull out the surprises. The destruction of the Prometheus :o :tear: Wow, could they have pulled a bigger surprise out of their big idea box?

I didn't catch on to it being on until the first 3 epsiodes had passed.....plus I really can't be bothered to keep recording things.....if I had a sky plus box that did it for me then I would.... :lmao:

I Agree recording on video tapes can be a great hassle especially as I'm recording things every day and trying to watch my tapes in the correct order. Then trying to record the new season while still catching up and not mixing the tapes up can be interesting to say the least but the end result was well worth it. I managed to go straight from season one into season two without the eight-month gap in between.

I think I too was disappointed when Carter returned. After Vala Carter seemed extremely bland and uninteresting. Although on the flipside her character can become a little overpowering and they may need to strike more of a balance with the other characters.

What with Claudia Black joining for season 10 Perhaps we could soon expect to see Wayne Pilgram , Anthony Simcoe & Gigi Edgley. gradually replacing the Stargate cast one by one until Farscape comes back on Air! ;) :lmao:

I quite like the stories surrounding the Ancients I just can't get into the Ori.

Jamie you're not quite alone I did really like the idea they were cut off from Earth. Admittedly I like the idea of the Daedalus but I don't like the crossover episodes. I would prefer that the Atlantis crew stayed in that galaxy with limited contact from Earth.



I also like what SA did to Ford as he wasn't the most interesting character in the first season but his new recurring role adds quite an interesting element to the show. :)

As much as i love SG-1 it just isn't the same without RDA, even when he was cutting down his role in S8 by being General, the majority of eps were good and the last 5 of S8 were fantastic imo. I'm not saying S9 is bad cos there have been some great eps, and Mitchell is a great character, not so keen on Landry though. Vala did make a huge difference at the beginning of the season, look forward to seeing more of her next year. As for the Ori, i'm glad that every ep isn't focusing on them, i'm liking the stand alone eps a lot more. My fave eps so far would have to be Avalon 2, Beachead and Ripple Effect.

As for Atlantis, i think this season is great, Ronan is a great new character and the team as a whole seem to be getting much more screen time. It was a shame to see Ford go, but i thought it made a good storyline, as they hadn't really done much with his character. A couple of the storylines have been similar to SG-1, didn't think Intruder was great, but I loved Grace Under Pressure - McKay and Sam are always a good laugh, and even more so when she's part of his mind, i hope we see some more underwater stories. Anyway my fave eps this season are Siege 3, Instinct/Conversion and Grace Under Pressure, and i'm looking forward to the Long Goodbye, from what i've read it sounds great.

So overall, Atlantis wins for me this season, but just by a bit because i am still really enjoying most of SG-1.

Ems :)

Hi Ems, we were lucky enough to meet Michael Shanks and Chris Judge this weekend - gorgeous pics where they posed with us even though they weren't supposed to will follow :wub:

The Stargate talk was hilarious even though I didn't get to see much of it, just heard it as the tickets were sold out before the doors even opened for standard entry. Michael took a poll of who prefered Tealc bald and then asked if anyone would like to shave him :lol: needless to say Chris was not happy.

Michael was a bit disturbed reading some of the fanfic :lol: they basically said they had a blast doing the show - who knew Chris was such a laugh, someone asked how much money they were paid for doing it :rolleyes: Chris said they were - Rich - which involved much rolling about and Michael said he did it for Art :lol:

They are both excited about the next season, Michael said filming starts next week and you couldn't hope to meet more friendly guys, genuinely happy to chat to us and have a laugh, they were lovely :D

Sounds great, glad you had a good time. Did you think he looked better bald? The hairs growing on me, as when i watch old eps he looks different. Seems like they're really nice guys

Ems :)

I met Chris Judge a few years back and he was fantastic - so unlike Teal'c it's unbelieveable :)

Still, he was far better when he was bald - the hair was alright when it was shorter, but now it's growing longer it's looking as silly as that of Nick off CSI :)

Well they both had hats on Saturday as they were having bad hair days :lol: that wouldn't happen if Teal'c was bald :lol:

I couldn't believe Chris was so bouncy and funny, totally different to the character. By the way their minds are in the gutter :lol: :lol:

They were also promoting the Women of Sci fi calender that they made, if anyone is interested I think there is a website under that name and if it's successful there will be a Men of Sci fi :thumbsup:

Well I think the hair is better than the bleached blond strip running from his lower lip to his chin in season 4. Which begs the question how his character managed to get it done while they were roughing it for a week on another planet after destroying the replicator's... I mean Colonel O'Neill comes backs stinking yet Teal'c manages to get groomed. :ponder: plus if it's only a week he has some serious growthage issues!

Anything is better than that yellow thing on his chin in S4, but that didn't last that long, which is a good thing. Bald is definately better, i doubt he'll get rid of the hair now.

Ems :)

I think he was pretty adamant he didn't want to, Michael on the other hand looked fabulous with longer hair, hope it stays like that :thumbsup: and the glasses have to go!!!

btw good choice of SG1 eps, I think those are pretty much my favs too :thumbsup:

You said MS had longer hair, and all i can think of is the first few seasons, where i didn't like his hair that much. What's the hair like?

Glad you like my choice of eps, although i'm two weeks behind, because i was catching up on 24 Day 4, before Day 5 started, and with everything else that i watch, i really need to catch up. So unless Ethon or Off the Grid were better, i'll stick with my original 3.

Sorry if i rambled on a bit, i'm just annoyed at being behind.

Ems :)

Should get the photo up in the next few days and then you can see what I mean :wub: nothing like the floppy hair from the first seasons :lol:

Last nights SG-1 was excellent :thumbsup:

:ph43r: I promise I will get those photo's up soon Alex :D

As you say, both Chris and Michael were fantastic :thumbsup:
The talk was hilarious and slightly disturbing in parts :lol: and although they had both had 'No posed Photographs' signs up all weekend they were both more than happy to pose with us by Sunday afternoon :thumbsup:
In fact we were talking to MS for so long that he was starting to sign his autograph for the person behind us whilst still chatting to us :lol:

And Alex is spot on about his hair :wub: and don't even ask about his top :drool:

Look forward to seeing the pics. Please don't spoil the last ep too much, my video recorder didn't tape it, so i have to wait til Saturday for the repeat. Glad it was "excellent", i look forward to seeing that as well.

Ems :)

Ooops, I was a week behind too :blush: I'm watching it when possible but D/L some weeks

Having seen both finales now, i think that the SG-1 finale was better than the Atlantis finale, but overalll Atlantis has been better this season. Do you agree?

Bring on Seasons 10 and 3!

Ems :)

Tough choice between the two, they have both had good and bad, more good than bad though.

I have been very impressed by Atlantis this year, soooo much better than Season 1, it has really found it's strengths now.

I've also really enjoyed Ben and Claudia joining SG-1 too though. I can't believe how much I've enjoyed them both. As someone who wasn't that interested in SG-1 before hand it's won me over so they certainly made a good choice in bringing them over.

Can't wait until the next Seasons :yahoo:

Spot on.

I've actually thought that this season of SG1 has been pretty good. I know everyone's not won over by the Ori storyline, but for me it's been quite interesting, and at last represents a major shift from the traditional Goa'uld/Replicators storylines that we've been used to for the past 8 years. In many ways this season's been almost like a completely new show, with the influx of new characters, almost all for the better IMO, and the new direction. Some of the individual stories have been a little weak at times, but overall IMO, season 9's been pretty good.

That being said, despite a lacklustre end to the season, season 2 of Atlantis has really improved the show over last year. There's still w**k to be done there, as it's clearly not the finished article, but this year has seen some really good progress. The individual episodes have been of a higher standard than last year, and the theme of seeking out ZPMs/Ancient technologies has given the show a better direction generally than it had last year. The replacement of Ford has also been a positive one for me, as Ronan(sp?) has been a much better character. Obviously filling the Teal'c/Worf quotient, but evenso, for me, a better character.

Really looking forward to next season, and it's only 2/3 months away :thumbsup: Things start up again in July.

Bump, my new Avatar is from the photo in Manchester :wub: that's the hair :D

I think I agree that the Stargate finale was better than the Atlantis one. Although to be perfectly honest I thought both finales were very poor.

I enjoyed Atlantis again more than Stargate even though I felt that Atlantis had an extremely weak final third of the season. I think if I recall correctly I only liked one or two episodes out the final eight whereas the first two-thirds of the season I found to be good on the whole.

I'm definitely not won over by the Ori storylines in Stargate and it doesn't help that I am unimpressed with King Arthur/Ancients side of this too. I'm also not keen on the J'aafar (spelling?) infighting, power struggles going on in the High Council or whatever they're called. The only thing I can say which is positive about Stargate this season is Ben Browder and Claudia Black being added to the cast. Although I personally believe Ben Browder is being wasted he has definitely filled O'Neill's shoes and has proven to those who didn't already know is equally adept at comedy as action.

I believe I have also said before that Ronin has been an excellent replacement for Ford. Ford's characters change has also made Ford an interesting recurring character so the writers of Atlantis got two birds with one stone on that one! I agree Ronin is obviously filling the Teal'c role but also so does Teyla too imo. interestingly neither Ronin or Teyla had an awful lot to do during the final third of the season. I'm starting to feel that there's too much focus on McKay.

Unless the 10th season of Stargate drastically improves I definitely think it should be cancelled, possibly and probably even if it does improve it should be cancelled. I think 10 years is way too long for one series, seven years is more than enough for a series of 20 episodes of more per year. Perhaps as you said on the "Camelot" thread they should replace all of the older Stargate characters like Jackson, Teal'c & carter then spin it off as Stargate the next generation or whatever.

To be honest I would like to see something completely different and if Stargate was finished perhaps other channels or even the sci-fi Channel would create a brand new science-fiction series. Stargate has had a bloody good innings and I think it's time for something else. There would still be Atlantis, the 4400 and Battlestar Galactica flying the flag for sci-fi so it's not like it's the last remaining sci-fi series in production.