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JustPlainSteve - May 18, 2007 01:14 PM (GMT)
This week, the broadcast networks are unveiling their fall lineups. The links below break everything down by network. Lost will return in 2008 with uninterrupted new episodes and the producers have announced that they will conclude the series in 2010. The flagship Law & Order will be back in January for its 18th season (executive producer Dick Wolf wants to beat Gunsmoke's record for longest-running prime time drama series); its Criminal Intent spinoff is moving to USA Network, and among the cancelled shows: The King of Queens, Gilmore Girls, 7th Heaven, Veronica Mars, According to Jim, George Lopez, Jericho, Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip (which my folks LOVED), Close to Home, The Class and Crossing Jordan.

ABC will have a new sitcom starring the Geico Cavemen :o

Click the links to see which of your favorites are coming back and which ones move to new time slots, and what's new:



The CW



Until then, let's all have a GREAT summer at Canobie Lake Park!!!!! Let's make this one last!

Joshua B - May 18, 2007 02:38 PM (GMT)
I'm most looking forward to the new season of Rescue Me.

I've enjoyed Lost this season, especially the second half.

Stitch - May 18, 2007 07:28 PM (GMT)
I am looking forward to the new season of Rescue Me as well B)

Ferret - May 18, 2007 09:08 PM (GMT)
Im only about 4 episodes into the 2nd season of lost, so i have no opinion on this season. :)

JustPlainSteve - May 22, 2007 01:20 AM (GMT)
Here is the full lineup as it appears in USA TODAY in a grid. Simply click the network logo for details:

JustPlainSteve - June 9, 2007 10:38 AM (GMT)
JERICHO fans have reason to celebrate--CBS has picked it up for midseason after being flooded with protests, letters, Emails and phone calls from loyal fans who wanted it back.

JustPlainSteve - May 20, 2009 09:06 PM (GMT)
I am reviving this thread which I launched in 2007 as the broadcast networks are unveiling their fall lineups.

Interesting tidbits--among the shows cancelled: Samantha Who?, Everybody Hates Chris, Without A Trace and The Unit. Jay Leno's new show will be on at 10:00PM 5 nights a week, moving Law & Order SVU to Wednesdays up against Criminal Minds (two very good crime dramas). The original Law & Order will tie Gunsmoke's record for longest-running prime time drama. Medium moves from NBC to CBS where it will play back to back with the equally strange Ghost Whisperer. Smallville enters its NINTH season. :o ABC is reviving the old "V" miniseries from the 80s and has new shows with Courtney Cox and Kelsey Grammer.



The CW



JustPlainSteve - May 21, 2010 08:09 PM (GMT)
It has been EXACTLY one year since this thread was updated. Here is the complete fall lineup for the five broadcast networks:

Among the shows cancelled: The New Adventures of Old Christine, Ghost Whisperer, the original Law & Order, Cold Case, Lost and 24.

JustPlainSteve - May 22, 2011 11:45 AM (GMT)

It's that time of year again as the broadcast networks continue to struggle with declining ratings while cable dominates. Among the casualties this year: Law & Order Los Angeles, Brothers & Sisters, Criminal Minds: Suspect Behavior, Smallville and Friday Night Lights. Former NBC show-turned-USA show Law & Order: Criminal Intent is also a goner, leaving Special Victims Unit the only L&O show still in production. In my opinion, SVU is the best of the bunch. Benson and Stabler rock.

JustPlainSteve - May 25, 2011 11:27 PM (GMT)
Pubman, I keep getting Email notifications that you replied to this topic, but I don't see your response here.

JustPlainSteve - October 25, 2012 02:22 AM (GMT)
October isn't even over yet and already the ax has fallen on two new network shows, CBS's Made In Jersey and NBC's Animal Practice, as well as ABC's Private Practice (the Grey's Anatomy spinoff).

On a happier note, NBC's Law & Order: Special Victims Unit just aired its 300th episode. Pictured below is the current cast with executive producer Dick Wolf.

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mrceagle - October 25, 2012 03:22 PM (GMT)
I think Made in Jersey had a pore time slot. it was a good show though a bit slow. the actress was charming and it was a fresh take on the lawyer show.

Animal practice I didn't care for there was not one character in the show worth liking. a shame the main veterinarian was great on Reba.

but I', sure we will see a few more drop off soon.

JustPlainSteve - October 25, 2012 04:07 PM (GMT)
SVU is like the little engine that could, chugging through its 14th season opposite Criminal Minds and Modern Family Wednesdays at 9PM.

mrceagle - October 25, 2012 09:54 PM (GMT)
ya it's going great, tough the show is not my cup of tea.

While some canceled shows deserve it, Too often canceled shows are simply not given the chance to build an audience or not enough time to find itself.

Shows like Seinfeld, Cheers, and Family ties did horrible for the first couple seasons but went on to be some of the most popular shows in history.

JustPlainSteve - October 26, 2012 01:23 AM (GMT)
Some of the most well-written scripted shows end up cancelled, while some really horrible ones end up running for years and years. I am not into reality shows at all and don't understand the appeal for shows like Survivor, The Amazing Race, American Idol, Big Brother, Jersey Shore and Keeping Up With The Kardashians. The only exceptions are Extreme Makeover: Home Edition and Undercover Boss because they do good for less fortunate people. To this day I still question the Nielsen Ratings system.

Another example: remember A Different World? It was the overhyped spinoff to The Cosby Show, which was giving NBC epic ratings back in the 80s. In my opinion, the only reason ADW lasted as long as it did was because of its cushy time slot between Cosby and Cheers. NBC could have put on a black & white test pattern there and that would have been a ratings smash. Further proof--after Cosby ended its run, ADW moved to 8PM Thursdays where it got its butt kicked by The Simpsons, which was still in its early years.

mrceagle - October 26, 2012 11:49 PM (GMT)
Time Slot means a lot. Often a show they want to do better despite the quality because it's the type of show they want.

I also am not a fan of reality shows. Though i do watch eh music related ones form time to time.Reality shows and Prime time game shows are so popular because of their return on investment. you pay out very little to those on the show. Or in some cases you pay the judges and the people on the show get little to nothing. But they bring in similar adverting revenue from a mainstream show.

With performers of popular shows demanding more and more salary reality shows are more appealing.

JustPlainSteve - November 19, 2012 05:31 AM (GMT)
Latest victims of the Nielsen chopping block: CBS's Partners, ABC's Last Resort and 666 Park Avenue.

mrceagle - November 20, 2012 02:29 AM (GMT)
Partners was OK but not great. Last Resort I never got into.

Sucks about 666 Park ave. not sure how it could be doing that bad. There wasn't much against it. at least on regular TV. I simply watched the replay of the Walking dead at Midnight.

pubman - November 26, 2012 07:21 PM (GMT)
A Haunting has returned, to my delight, on cable channel Destination America. It was on hiatus from 2007 - 10/2012.

It has a new opening, which is slightly changed from the original run. Still narrated by the ever-creepy voice of Anthony Call ;). It airs every Fri 10PM E.

JustPlainSteve - November 26, 2012 08:39 PM (GMT)
Anthony Call? Glad to see that he found another steady gig after One Life To Live! He was the attorney who grilled Karen Wolek (Judith Light) on the witness stand, forcing her to break down and admit to being a prostitute. This was the performance that won her an Emmy and put her on the map to stardom (Who's The Boss?, Law & Order and others).

pubman - November 27, 2012 12:41 PM (GMT)
^ I didn't realize that he was on OLTL. Well, that's him (according to his IMDB page).

JustPlainSteve - December 16, 2012 12:40 AM (GMT)
Just watched an interesting rerun of SVU on USA (Characters Welcome). Special guests Alfred Molina (Doc Ock from Spider-Man 2) and two stage & screen legends (Rita Moreno and Angela Lansbury), and in one scene, ADA Casey Novak is beaten to a pulp in her own office after hours. I bet all the criminals she prosecuted would loved to have seen that.

This is back when Elliot Stabler was on it. The newer episodes just aren't as good. I think SVU is in its final season.

mrceagle - December 20, 2012 10:14 PM (GMT)
I'm sick of both law and order and CSI. to many spin offs and it is simply old. There are better Law shows out there that mix up the drama and humanity or drama and comedy that you can look elsewhere.

JustPlainSteve - January 27, 2013 05:09 PM (GMT)
Well I'm looking forward to the new SVU episode Wednesday at 9PM with special guest Nia Vardalos from My Big Fat Greek Wedding. It will be nice to see her in a non-comedic role for a change, plus, she hasn't done much of anything since Connie & Carla.

mrceagle - January 28, 2013 04:06 AM (GMT)
Ya I saw her in the commercial. She is a wonderful actress. should be good.

glad to see the winter brake is over. many shows are back already and a few starting up soon.

JustPlainSteve - January 28, 2013 01:13 PM (GMT)
It's also February sweeps, when the networks pull out all the stops as far as programming.

NHDEN - January 28, 2013 11:57 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (JustPlainSteve @ Jan 27 2013, 12:09 PM)
she hasn't done much of anything since Connie & Carla.

I love Connie and Carla. It's one of those movies I can repeatedly watch and enjoy. Big Fat Greek Wedding is an all time favorite. Reminds me of my Big Fat Italian Family. :Ahh:

industrial kid - February 5, 2013 10:01 AM (GMT)
The origianal MTV WITH yes The old Rammstein :3 enjoy !

industrial kid - February 7, 2013 09:10 PM (GMT)
I want to see that and the same with a show called big rig bounty hunters!!!

JustPlainSteve - April 7, 2013 03:48 AM (GMT)
I've been hearing about CBS planning a spinoff series for NCIS: Los Angeles. This is a first--a spinoff of a spinoff of a spinoff.

Let me break it down for you. This proposed new crime drama (which has yet to be titled) came from NCIS: LA, which came from NCIS, which came from JAG.

Another show you probably didn't realize was a spinoff: The Simpsons (The Tracey Ullman Show).

mrceagle - April 10, 2013 05:30 AM (GMT)
If you count the Simpsons as a spin off then you need to count the Muppet show as one as well. it was first featured on SNL.

I might be backwards on this one but Everyone loves Raymond was a spin off of King of Queens.

and we should at least take a moment for the worse spin of of all Baywatch Nights

I like NCIS but because of the cast. i really don't like NCIS LA a spin off would only be appealing if the cast was interesting.

JustPlainSteve - April 10, 2013 11:48 AM (GMT)
I thought The Muppet Show came from Sesame Street.

My Dad likes NCIS but not NCIS: LA. Mom's not crazy about either, she can't stand DiNozzo and that little old lady with the big glasses on NCIS: LA is creepy.

mrceagle - April 10, 2013 02:43 PM (GMT)
That little old lady was better in the Incredibles Pixar movie.

Nope it was SNL, The Muppets show predates Sesame Street. Spin offs of Sesame Street would be Play with me Sesame and Open Sesame which were shorter 30 0show son like Spout that used older clips to make a new show.

JustPlainSteve - April 11, 2013 01:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (mrceagle @ Apr 10 2013, 12:30 AM)
We should at least take a moment for the worst spinoff of all, Baywatch Nights.

Funny, I thought the "worst spinoff of all" title went to AfterM*A*S*H*. At least TV Guide thought so in a past issue.

Time Magazine thought so too. Their list of worst spinoffs includes Baywatch Nights as well as The Ropers (Three's Company), Joanie Loves Chachi (Happy Days) and A Man Called Hawk (Spenser: For Hire). TV Guide's list included Living Dolls (Who's The Boss?)

mrceagle - April 11, 2013 05:00 AM (GMT)
most of those are way before my time.

Joey I remember as a spin off of Friends. wasn't great but it wasn't anything special either.

Unhappily Ever After was a Spin off of Married With Children. This one I actually liked

JustPlainSteve - April 11, 2013 12:46 PM (GMT)
Joey made that top 10 list.

mrceagle - April 11, 2013 02:36 PM (GMT)
I can see why, like I said it wasn't anything special. mostly filler.

Side not Army wives and Client List are back. Looks like Army wives it's looking to swap out the entire cast.

JustPlainSteve - April 11, 2013 03:42 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (mrceagle @ Apr 11 2013, 09:36 AM)
I can see why, like I said it wasn't anything special. mostly filler.

It was an ill-fated attempt by NBC to hold on to their Thursday night ratings with Friends, Seinfeld and ER slipping away. Now NBC's in 4th place behind CBS, ABC and Fox but ahead of UniVision and The CW (a network that I don't see lasting too much longer).

USA Today publishes the weekly Nielsen ratings chart every Wednesday. NBC's only legitimate ratings hits are The Voice, The Biggest Loser and Sunday Night Football. CBS pretty much dominates the Top 20, more than half the shows on that list are CBS shows.

mrceagle - April 12, 2013 12:21 AM (GMT)
I know ABC is doing pretty bad. They are grasping at a few straws like the in development Big Thunder mountain show based on the ride. well more using the name it seem more based off Dr Quinn.

I don't see CW Going anywhere. They Play off of franchises they own and teeny bopper shows that get easy advertising and mostly no name actors that demand very little in pay.

In a nice coincidence I came across this list of a 20 worst Spin offs.

It mentioned Saved By the Bell the College years. Which I Enjoyed, much better the the New Class which mostly recycled former content.

JustPlainSteve - April 12, 2013 03:21 AM (GMT)
Thanks for the link.....took me a while to see all 20 on the list (that website is SLOW!!). I'm shocked that AfterM*A*S*H* didn't make the list. I never realized that Here Comes Honey Boo Boo was a spinoff, but then again, I don't watch TLC. I always thought TLC was The Learning Channel, but what exactly are we learning?

Shifting gears: After 25 years, 1,203 fugitive captures and 63 missing children found, America's Most Wanted has been cancelled. It was a staple on the Fox network for many years, running back to back with COPS on Saturday nights until a few years ago when it moved to Lifetime. AMW host John Walsh is lobbying to get the show reinstated on another network.

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