Title: cyclone
methos - February 22, 2006 03:30 AM (GMT)
How long do you think it will be before cyclone comes down for some sort of new ride?
it has a long line most times it seams to run one train only latly? or is it just me?
themeparkfreak - February 22, 2006 12:39 PM (GMT)
When I went there last year, Cyclone had a pretty long line and two trains running. Cyclone just needs some work and it will be in pretty good shape, but I doubt that it will get the attention that it needs. With the new management in place, I don't think that the ride will get torn down soon, simply because they don't want to make any major thrill related investments. Plus, a lot of work has been going on with the ride recently, including I think they have been retracking over this offseason.
corkscrew16 - February 23, 2006 05:27 PM (GMT)
Some how, I have a feeling that i'm going to feel the pain of rideing cyclone for another 65 years. :blah:
mrceagle - February 25, 2006 05:30 AM (GMT)
Everthing depends on the new owners. they don't plan on addign huge rides and coasters so it's safe for a while on that count. but as far as makign it better. it will depend on there mantality. if they contunue to do work internaly to save money then they will contunue to have a crapy coaster. If they do what canobie and LC did for there emprovments and go toa companie that knows what they are doing them we might actually see somthign of a plesurable coaster return to the park.
corkscrew16 - March 2, 2006 02:23 AM (GMT)
Correct me if i'm wrong, but the way it looks right now is that the problem with sixflags switching to more of a family park is that they won't be into the ''Huge rollercoaster'' businesses anymore for a while. Sometimes I don't understand it, sixflags has been a rollercoaster park for as long as can remember, why are the new owners switching to more of a family park when they know they are'nt going to be a great family park anyway? I'm not completey sure that whats happening, are the new owners just makeing a few changes to make the park a safer place or are they changeing sixflags for good?
themeparkfreak - March 2, 2006 03:35 AM (GMT)
The new owners aren't completely going family on us. I read somewhere that Shapiro said that they aren't going to abandon the thrill business (they still want the teens business), they just aren't going to rely on it as much as before. You'll still see thrills installed, just not as many as before. I'll see if I can find the article for you.
mrceagle - March 2, 2006 05:32 AM (GMT)
Yes but thats not much of an answer. How long before thrill ride additions or coasters? he won't say. the hole family thing is good and bad you get a teen at times he comes alone or with 2 peope ocationaly you get a group. but a family is 4 peopel at average. so thats 215 and you've only gone though the gate. then you have every other over priced thing in the park. But many of the parks don't have the rides to suport the heavy price increases. so to catch up they might need to add 2-3 family rides to each park. thats stil up to 1.5 million over 26 parks.
This is more to put lower capital back into the parks and use the rest to pay down the debt. were likely going to see no mager coaster unless used for 4-5 years. you might see some thrill rides btu they won't be to parks like SFNE that already have many of them.
corkscrew16 - March 2, 2006 09:00 PM (GMT)
If you can find an article themeparkfreak, that would be great. So........from all I heard so far, for the next 5 years only low priced family coasters and thrill rides are going to be added and after the 5 years coasters are still going to be added, but not as much as before. Also, does this mean, the new park owners are risking their title of the ''worlds tallest rollercoaster'' now and do they care if a park goes higher than Kingda ka?
mrceagle - March 2, 2006 10:15 PM (GMT)
I doubt they care and The record is a temporary thing. someone eventualy will beat it. but I doght any time soon. the Rocket strata coaster are too bassic, coast too much money, and are too unreliable.
Phobia - July 16, 2006 04:43 PM (GMT)
That ride scares the $H!7 out of me. I literally thought the train was doing bunny hops and it felt like we were coming off the track.
mrceagle - July 16, 2006 06:05 PM (GMT)
Teh track is in poor shape even given the fact they have been working on it there not really qualitied to be doing the work on there own.
This coaster used to be great now it's jsut a waist of space.
corkscrew16 - July 18, 2006 05:32 PM (GMT)
Is there anything the park can do to change cyclone into a better ride or is it just too hopeless to even try?
Phobia - July 19, 2006 06:08 AM (GMT)
I don't know much about coasters, but I think they will just leave it as it is. When I went to SFNE, it was a 'walk-on' ride the whole day.
mrceagle - July 19, 2006 07:21 PM (GMT)
And do you think it's good for a park with limited space to keep a ride that;'s a walk on all the time. It's a walk on because the ride in it's present condition and layout isn't that good.
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| Is there anything the park can do to change cyclone into a better ride or is it just too hopeless to even try? |
There are things the park can do but the park won't do them. for starters the ride needs to be gone over by a coaster company that knows what they are doing. then the coaster needs to be retracked and in some cases reprofiled.
Canobie did thin with the cannonball and the coaster is far better for it.
corkscrew16 - July 20, 2006 01:02 AM (GMT)
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| There are things the park can do but the park won't do them. for starters the ride needs to be gone over by a coaster company that knows what they are doing. then the coaster needs to be retracked and in some cases reprofiled. |
Why does'nt the park do that then? Does it cost to much money?
mrceagle - July 20, 2006 05:08 PM (GMT)
To Quite a manager at the park " Why pay some one to do something we can do ourselves." Problem is they think they can do more then they can. Like properly retracking and reprofiling the coaster.
Also PTC trains are not meant for Highly twisted track layouts that's why GCI Switched over to there own coaster cars. Millenium Flyer's!
corkscrew16 - July 21, 2006 09:41 PM (GMT)
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| Also PTC trains are not meant for Highly twisted track layouts that's why GCI Switched over to there own coaster cars. Millenium Flyer's! |
Will it help if the park switches the current PTC coaster trains with ones that can handle cyclones twisted track or would the coaster still be a bad ride?
mrceagle - July 23, 2006 07:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (corkscrew16 @ Jul 21 2006, 04:41 PM) |
| QUOTE | | Also PTC trains are not meant for Highly twisted track layouts that's why GCI Switched over to there own coaster cars. Millenium Flyer's! |
Will it help if the park switches the current PTC coaster trains with ones that can handle cyclones twisted track or would the coaster still be a bad ride?
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The coaster used to run Morgan trains. the trains were articulated and could adjust to the track layout. so yes trains other then PTC would help but the track would still need some work.
coastercrazed48 - August 9, 2006 01:08 PM (GMT)
i say most of the ride is a good ride except for the stretch of track past the turnaround it was one of the bupbyest parts of a roller coaster i have ever been on i wonder if it would be any smoother with different trains :huh:
SoulessCorpse - August 9, 2006 03:54 PM (GMT)
The ride has become a joke for the most part. It is alot slower then it used to be now, alot alot alot rougher now. They wont even run two trains because of the damage it would cause to the track.
mrceagle - August 9, 2006 04:35 PM (GMT)
With all the changes and with the direction SFI is going I don't see it having much of a life. the coaster has a line but so dose pretty much every other ride int eh park. The parks overall capacity is low and the ride lines suffer for it.
But in time you will see this coaster come out. They can create more circles in the path creating less traffic and Build something that more people will ride and enjoy.
New trains is to blame for the rides problems over the last few years. the park got rid of the Morgan trains and replaced them with PTC's which can't handle the twisted track.
corkscrew16 - August 9, 2006 05:45 PM (GMT)
I have feeling other six flags guests along with us also don't like cyclone. Everytime I use Flashpass on it, theres either a 5 minute wait or no wait at all and when I get in line for it theres only about 20-30 poeple waiting along with me. So if you think about it there really is no point of useing two trains on cyclone anyways.
SoulessCorpse - August 9, 2006 09:43 PM (GMT)
No it does get waits, but they just refuse to use two trains it will shorten its life by that much more.
coastercrazed48 - August 10, 2006 12:04 AM (GMT)
what do you think they should do with cyclone keep and keep having it get older and older, or should they tear it down and put in a new flat ride like a power surge or a new coaster that could fit in that plot of land?
mrceagle - August 10, 2006 02:16 AM (GMT)
i don't think you will ever see a power surge at any SFI park. But the coaster isn't that old which is one big complaint. it's height isn't really an issue because it never really uses it. they do use two trains from time to time but rarely.
Honestly The new Cyclone is a joke and not good at all I would prefer to see it removed add a hand full of rides along the back of the park and another path to the front.
CoasterCraig325 - August 10, 2006 05:22 AM (GMT)
When I visited the park 2 weeks ago on a saturday they were running 2 trains. It was a one train wait the whole day, and they continued to run 2 trains till closing. I rode 3 times all in the back seat and every time i rode my ribs hurt more and more. I probaby would have broke a rib if i tried riding again.
mrceagle - August 10, 2006 04:35 PM (GMT)
The coaster can be very rough. it really is not that much fun anymore.
coastercrazed48 - August 10, 2006 07:21 PM (GMT)
the first time i went to six flags i was so excited to ride cyclone but then when i first went on it there was no airtime it was very jercky and i was so dissapointed, but at least the line was not to long because it was a weekday and if it was long it would of been a waist of like an hour which i could of spent in line of superman
mrceagle - August 11, 2006 02:53 PM (GMT)
Even the original only had a few locations of air time it was mostly turns and G's But it was so much better before the PTC's were added.
CoasterCraig325 - August 15, 2006 08:23 PM (GMT)
Anyone notice that the pictures on the SFNE official site show the cyclone pre six flags? The top picture you can see the old drop, and the second picture is from 1997. You can see the Black Widow and the Rotor, as well as the shipwreck falls wich was added that year! I thought this was quite funny and false advertising as both the black widow and rotor have been out of the park for almost 10 years now lol!! take a look for yourself.........
http://www.sixflags.com/parks/newengland/Rides/cyclone.html
SoulessCorpse - August 16, 2006 02:18 AM (GMT)
Almostall there rides are not up to date pictures, its a way to save money. It really doesnt matter your not gunna go to the park because you saw a picture of the coaster or not. Almost all of the advertisements for El Toro was using footage from other coasters, and such.
corkscrew16 - August 16, 2006 03:37 AM (GMT)
What do you mean that it's a way to save money? It doesn't cost a lot to send someone to take a picture of a ride and put it up on their site. Maybe they are just too lazy to put up new pictures. Some of the ride had that section that read ''picture coming soon'' for almost half a year now.
mrceagle - August 17, 2006 01:47 AM (GMT)
If you hire a professional it is. also look at there TV commercials very little of the video is even SFNE and the video that is 90% is out of date and showing rides that are no longer at the park.
But if they really wanted too they could have a Photo contest and have a winner for each ride. every winner gets a season pass and there name on the SF park site under the photo.
You win in both directions those people are going to spend money at the park or to get into the park to take the photo and after they will they will spend at least some money at the park.
SoulessCorpse - August 17, 2006 02:41 AM (GMT)
Does it really make that big of a difference if they are up to date? It has not bothered or changed my mind at all. Then again i hardly ever hear or see there advertisments, so im really not the people they are tryign to entise. Which is why someone who has never been to the park or seen it would not even know it is not up to date pics or video. All in all i dont think it is that big of a concern.
mrceagle - August 17, 2006 09:37 PM (GMT)
It's more that is Misleading. A Ferris wheel and Flume can be seen from the Fly over. I not knowing there removed might enjoy Flumes and Ferris wheels. If I'm new to the area I might go expecting to ride them but will quickly realising after spending allot of money there not there. Or I might be expecting a larger floor less coaster since they used stock footage from Medusa. i might go to the park expecting to see a specific themed area but be disappointed when I find that park doesn't have it.
using stock footage is miss leading. It really borderlines on false advertisement. they can do allot of get up to date video and photos but they don't want to do it.
Cedrp0intlvr - October 13, 2007 12:23 PM (GMT)
Cyclone isnt very old, it was only built in what? 1983 or something.
mrceagle - October 13, 2007 02:31 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Cedrp0intlvr @ Oct 13 2007, 07:23 AM) |
| Cyclone isnt very old, it was only built in what? 1983 or something. |
Yes it was built in 83. at the time it was one of the top rated wood coasters in the world. It's now a shadow of its former self.
coasterkid - October 24, 2007 07:09 PM (GMT)
kpmcman - October 28, 2007 07:20 PM (GMT)
they cant get rid of cyclone. I have two reasons. 1. it is one the old rides from Riverside and two, out of all of the roller coasters I have been on this is my favorite. I seriously wish that every roller coaster was this shaky. I like tha so much that i have waited ten trainsto ride it...in the back. :Ahh:
mrceagle - October 29, 2007 12:20 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (kpmcman @ Oct 28 2007, 02:20 PM) |
| they cant get rid of cyclone. I have two reasons. 1. it is one the old rides from Riverside and two, out of all of the roller coasters I have been on this is my favorite. I seriously wish that every roller coaster was this shaky. I like tha so much that i have waited ten trainsto ride it...in the back. :Ahh: |
The Cyclone of Riverside days doesn't exist. They destroyed it when they added trims and reprofiled the drop. The cars were replaced with Heavier, yet more comfortable PTC trains. but, those trains are riping the coaster up. It's deferent enough that it's nto the cyclone of riverside. It's like saying Journey Into your Imagination with figment is the same Classic EPCOT ride journey Into imagination.
but what your Favorite is means nothing to the park. Rodeo was my Favorite Family level attraction at SFNE. It's coming out after this year.