the first episode of the new season what will it, wolfdog72

Well, they are both green. Now all Shego has to do is shrink to about 3 feet tall, become bald and wrinkly, and speak in a backwards-ish dialect.

Shego-as-Yoda-speak:

Drakken, dumb your plan is ...

Princess, clean your clock I will ...

I'd kind of like to see Shego and Drakken stay in jail for a while, or at least just Drakken, if only so Kim can go and pay him a visit "Silence of the Lambs" style. He'll try to be all creepy, but just can't pull it off. Or so that their escape can be shown in more detail this time around.

I don't know any more than the rest of you about what Season 4 will hold, but I feel safe in predicting that Ron will lose his pants at least once.
Maybe more; who knows?

Realistically? The possibility that Kim's attraction to Ron in "So the Drama" was a rebound is high, but it's not something that would happen. It's simply too rough an emotional event to include in a show that is essentially aimed at children.

This is almost as bad as the concept of Josh being, for all intents and purposes, Satan incarnate. Kim, for all her faults, isn't evil, which quite frankly would be the consequence of what you suggested actually happened.

From who? Besides, the chump is infused with Mystical Monkey Power, and Kim isn't brainless. I think they'll cope.

I would imagine the latter. No one watches "Disney's Kim Possible" to see a romantic soap opera.

Friends? Unknown, but I wouldn't think it would be negative, as there's no reason for it to be. Parents? Again, I see no reason why they'd behave negatively. For the villains however, it may initially seem that it gives them new options, but ultimately their friendship prior to Season 3 was strong to the point where targeting either one to get at the other was already viable.

Unknown. I personally hope they'll drift apart romantically like Kim and Josh did, but only time will tell what will happen.

Happen...? Most matters and aims of debate in Disney's Kim Possible are forsaken unresolved; it'd take a considerable and operatic bit of dialogue to successfully integrate a proof of a rebound notion within the series; thus, I'd hypothesize, like most other matters and aims of debate, it'll be forsaken unresolved. I feel it's obvious there was some degree of displacement (from Erik to Ron)— the question mostly is of how much. Some'll claim very little (MrDrP?), some'll claim a midpoint of sorts (me) and some'll claim K/R would, realistically, break up hours after the event / a high degree of displacement. We're given too little data to base claims off of— I mean, the prom scene wasn't much more than a minute for the FSM's sake— but, meta-analytically, I do believe the third claim invalid, mostly for the reasons you'd stated, and mostly because of the fact that, even if Kim was rebounding, a subsequent breakup coming immediately ulteror to the prom kiss would, indeed, be considerably callous given the nature and strength of the friendship beforehand.

There's also the issue of meta-analysis; what moral would this exude...? You've to keep in mind uncountable children hold Kim to "role model" status, and have strong desires to emulate Kim. Like it or not, such a decision would, psychologically, be imprinted and you'd have a generation Y who thinks it's A-OK to dump a person with which you've a friendship of several years the minute a new "hottie" comes along.

Ron did kick down a tree with, if I'm remembering correctly, an immensely thick trunk; I'm no physicist, but the human body, I believe, can exert maybe 1500 pounds of force at peak performance, and the toppling of such a tree would require more around 10,000. It was, indeed, a scene thrown in for comic effect, but we can't just discount it on such a basis. I'm mostly in alignment with you, here.

Well, yes, The Jabberwocky, they're called radical shippers; hilariously enough, one or two of these disturbed individuals have disclaimed the desire to watch an operatic show, yet the twisted way they define the S1–S3 aggregate is, indeed, operatic.

Whoa whoa wait, wait... what...? The villains haven't exactly an all-seeing eye with which they gauge the strength of Kim and Ron's relationship over a period of several years. The villains aren't omniscient narrators and the villains know nothing more than what the villains are empirically exposed to. The villains aren't Gigantamo and the villains have independent minds; to wit, Dementor, for example, hasn't spent more than what I'd consider, debatably, an hour in the presence of Kim and Ron. Monkey Fist often faces Ron alone, DNAmy hadn't shown even remote interest really in either, and a litany of villains were one-shot; heck, even Drakken and Shego haven't more than what I'd claim, variably, a few hours of experience with Kim, or perhaps, debatably, a day at most; for the villains to target K/R in the hopes of getting to R/K, pre-StD, they'd have to have a thoroughgoing knowledge of the strength of the platonic friendship K/R share, which was formed over a period of years, that is, possibly 2,000+ days or 48,000 hours; I doubt the villains could at all extrapolate 48,000 hours from 2 or 3 if even. However, I'd imagine the news of the K/R pairing would be all over the place; Kim has something of a celebrity status, and, in addition to observing the fact her victories often are published in newspapers and, I think, broadcast on television, we've also learned many have heard of Kim (Josh Mankey comes to mind, as do some of the villains). We know Kim is a celebrity, we know what happens to celebrities, and we know Kim has just "hooked up," so to speak, with a childhood friend of 10+ years; the math isn't hard to do, and as such the likelihood of a villain targeting K/R to get to R/K post-StD would have tremendously increased. Besides, nobody even knows who Ron is, and he's not even reported in newspapers, on television etcetera. We know this from Showdown at the Crooked D; Joss is indeed the biggest, and most informed, Kim Possible fan within the canon, and, in addition to that, she has tons of KP memorabilia, and knows a disturbing amount about Kim and her adventures, which, obviously, would have been obtained from media sources... yet, she knows zilch of Ron. Ron is so second banana, he basically doesn't exist to the pop culture of Kim Possible; so, this withstanding, I re-aver my former statement; the likelihood of a villain targeting K/R to get to R/K post-StD would have tremendously increased, at the very least tenfold if not more, granted and assuming the espousal of the intention. If anything, they'd target Kim's family to get at her, whether of single or multiple motivations; we've seen this happen, quite prominently might I add, in So the Drama. I'd also like to bring to the table the fact Adrena Lynn, in All the News, employed a variation of the tactic; basically, she strapped Ron to a carnival ride, but I don't think it was as much to get at Kim than it was to get Ron out of the way, as supported by the fact it wasn't premeditated, more being a spur-of-the-moment sort of thing. Kim, at this point, wasn't much unnerved by the prospect; in several other episodes the chance of Ron's impending death hadn't much seemed to unsettle her as well. Granted, this is more arguable than the former points, but still the possibility of my thesis alluded to being correct enhances the thesis I'd laid out before per potential enhancement. I very strongly disagree with your statement re the villains. I agree with your friends / parents analysis however; we've seen, in StD, motley MHS pupils cheering for K/R, so aside from the Bonnie split they've unanimous support from what we've seen so far; as for the parents, by StD some might argue Dr. Mom Possible is a K/R shipper. Beyond vaguenesses, there's no concretion here, but given the vaguenesses it's very possible.

It's very possible; MBS have dropped some hints that suggest the idea, but obviously we know they'll not break up straightaway (that would be kind of brutal). It's possible they might drift apart, but not for a long time, as well; the college theory is a point in support of this, for friendships or romances that aren't actively realized fail to be.

I know I'm going to regret posting this, but ...

Here's a first 30 seconds of the new season that would blow people away and also serve to get MBS out of the corner they think they may have painted themselves into: we fade back in to where we left off at the prom, Kim and Ron in their lip-lock. Then they pull away, look at each other and simultaneously say, "Wow, that was awk-weird." "Jinx! You owe me a soda!" Kim shouts. They laugh about it and decide to go back to being just friends.

With the info given in the press realease, I highly doubt that would happen. Though it would be funny to see the radical shippers explode if it did.

With the info given in the press realease, I highly doubt that would happen. Though it would be funny to see the radical shippers explode if it did. laugh.gif laugh.gif

It would be quite funny to have the first part happen, but, and I'm far from an extremist shipper, I'd really like to see them together for a while. I'd think it fun to watch. Also it's good seeing the geek getting the girl...

Happen...? Most matters and aims of debate in Disney's Kim Possible are forsaken unresolved; it'd take a considerable and operatic bit of dialogue to successfully integrate a proof of a rebound notion within the series; thus, I'd hypothesize, like most other matters and aims of debate, it'll be forsaken unresolved. I feel it's obvious there was some degree of displacement (from Erik to Ron)— the question mostly is of how much. Some'll claim very little (MrDrP?), some'll claim a midpoint of sorts (me) and some'll claim K/R would, realistically, break up hours after the event / a high degree of displacement. We're given too little data to base claims off of— I mean, the prom scene wasn't much more than a minute for the FSM's sake— but, meta-analytically, I do believe the third claim invalid, mostly for the reasons you'd stated, and mostly because of the fact that, even if Kim was rebounding, a subsequent breakup coming immediately ulteror to the prom kiss would, indeed, be considerably callous given the nature and strength of the friendship beforehand.

Yes, I'd argue that rebounding played a minimal role in Kim's decision to take Ron to the prom and kiss him, largely based on the fact that the groundwork for a romantic relationship was being laid throughout S3. Ron stepped up to the plate in a big way in the movie and Kim finally saw him as a "guy" and not just as "Ron".

Or instead of the line that you posted them saying mf24 I could imagine the whole prom scene at the end being just a dream and Kim wakes up by herself at home and reality had ended after Drakken had been defeated. What a shock to the system that would be.

It would seem I was unclear and ultimately vague in my original statement, which led to your rather firm analysis of why a villain would, after "So the Drama", use Kim and Ron's closeness against the other. Reading what I'd written, perhaps this would be more suitable.

As for the villains, they will almost certainly consider their new options, but really, the option was there before, only unpublicised. In "Oh Boyz" we see how nasty Kim got when SSS and SSJ kidnapped Ron, and that was accidental. Motor Ed in "Motor Ed" was similiar in threatening violence against a captured Ron, only he wasn't aware of his importance.

Or instead of the line that you posted them saying mf24 I could imagine the whole prom scene at the end being just a dream and Kim wakes up by herself at home and reality had ended after Drakken had been defeated. What a shock to the system that would be.

But the problem with that approach is that it leaves Ron's feelings and "out there, in here" unresolved.

It's called 'Ill Suited'.

Here's a quote-

Ron:

"Man, love is complicated"



(runs from the exploding bomb)

...and I raise Blush, in which Ron bravely risked his life so Kim wouldn't disappear into a big, sodding pile of nothing, whilst Kim, 100% "in the know" of what Ron was doing, didn't show even the slightest care, instead pursuing the affections of a certain fellow whose last name rhymes with "monkey." Kim wasn't even consternated at the possibility of Ron meeting his untimely death, perhaps RIP (to wit, resting in pieces)— heck, she didn't even thank him. No, instead her actions amounted to the equivalent of "flip off and flip you," resuming her date with Josh Mankey and, as we have seen, the happiest thing about the entire ordeal was that she'd gotten a peck of a kiss from him [Mankey]. We could back and forth this all day— clearly I marked it debatable— but while, indeed, the option was there before, your purpose in noting this, originally, was seemingly in relation to, and to buttress, the idea that there wasn't much a marked change. You've seemingly conceded the point so I suppose I needn't pursue this further.

EDIT: added to indicate the absence of ill will; I'd also fixed an atrocious typo on my part.